Experience with California post 2010 truck ban?

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  1. Joeziah

    Joeziah Light Load Member

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    Just curious what its like, do they stop you at the POE or scales and ask for registration.

    Do they put the older trucks out of service or have them towed out of state?

    How much are the fines?

    Just curious how lane rates haven't spiked in California after this...
     
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  3. Concorde

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    I wasn’t just in SoCal the other day because of cheap rates :)

    When you cross a scale your enrollment in the clean truck BS will be linked to your DOT#…just like everything else.
    I have noticed the lack of junk trucks running around in CA. I also noticed tons of reefer/Van trailers running around with no skirts..thought you were required to have them?
     
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    CARB has roadside sniffers with license plate readers set up in undisclosed locations to sample the exhaust as you drive by.

    If your truck is emitting high Nox levels you’ll get a nice letter in the mail asking you to go to a smog test center to check your emissions system.
     
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  5. Joeziah

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    I'm just wondering what would happen if someone, asking for a friend, were to roll into the port of entry with out of state tags and a older truck...

    Are they towing the truck, putting it out of service or just fining them...
     
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  6. Concorde

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    I can’t say but I’m sure whatever they do it’s designed as a deterrent. The other thing to note is that they can hold the broker liable if you’re going to use one. They require that brokers make sure the carrier is compliant.

    You can also just get a 5 day? Pass if it’s a one time thing. They require it to be purchased 7 days before entry and you only will get one per year..not exactly sure I got the details correct but that’s the gist of it.

    Personally FAFO isn’t the smartest way to go..could be costly.
     
  7. TheLoadOut

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    Let California fend for themsleves.
    They don't want you, they don't need you. There are 47 other states you can work. California is the girl that is a 4, but thinks she's a 10.
     
  8. Concorde

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    Okay, just talked to a gentleman from California who has some knowledge on what happens when you get busted.

    First thing they do is impound your truck and force you into making it compliant. The fines are designed to insure that you won’t make a profit in California with your illegal truck.

    All said and done the guy he knows that went through it cost him in excess of $16,000.

    Take it with a grain of salt but the guy I talked to isn’t your typical jerk-off lunch counter storyteller.
     
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    I know they use to give you a 3 day pass, and/or 1000 mile exemption. IDK now......
     
  10. Concorde

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    They still do but it’s a once a year and it has to be purchased in advance, can’t just show up at a scale and get one.
     
  11. boneebone

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    The California Air Resources Board (CARB) ended its three-day pass program for out-of-state trucks on January 1, 2021. The program allowed trucks to operate in California for a few days each year without meeting the state's requirements for a new or retrofitted diesel engine.

    A CARB non-compliant vehicle is not authorized to haul freight in the state of California, no matter where it is registered. Therefore, it is very important to maintain an active CARB registration on your entire fleet if you ever operate or plan to operate in the state.
     
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