Unique position in life

Discussion in 'Trucking Schools and CDL Training Forum' started by BenWolf, Mar 29, 2025.

  1. BenWolf

    BenWolf Bobtail Member

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    So get a phone book (yellow pages are still around) and find a full page ad for a local disability attorney that only gets paid if he wins it for you, for about 30% of the backpay. I had to do that for my mom, because she kept whing about getting denied, and still complained "he'll get all my money!!". "All WHAT money, you're getting nothing without one", i told her. She called the one I pointed to in the phone book with a full page and yes she got her disability awarded thanks to him.

    If I wait until everything falls apart to worry about it, everyone else will be scrambling and fighting too. There will be even less time, less training openings, and less jobs to go for, because EVERYONE will be fighting to get training/jobs. That's why I said in my original post, I am trying to get ahead of this before it's out of control. If I can get a couple years of CDL experience behind me before the bottom falls out, I'll be that much ahead of everyone else who sat on their hands, living on wishful thinking.

    If you want the video in question, I have enough posts to DM now. I'll happily send you the video, and you can judge for yourself whether I'm doomsdaying or not.

    Beware of Pollyanna syndrome. Take what people are saying at face value, don't assume otherwise. If someone says that's how they feel about something and are in a position of tremendous power, assume that are going to use their power to accomplish what they're advocating for. When it comes to politics, yes it's kind of a 50/50 thing if they will or not, I get that. It depends on not only what they say, but the things people say that they surround themselves with.

    I have something I can show you that will raise your eyebrows way high up, as far as disabled people in general, but I can't talk about it publicly without getting this thread shut down for sure, because it's inflammatory by it's very nature of being a thing that happened, and the two people involved.
     
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  3. Concorde

    Concorde Road Train Member

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    Work history shouldn’t be a problem as long as you can prove that you were out on disability. That’ll satisfy the work history requirement.

    Not sure how you can avoid talking about your disability when talking with potential employers. Your disability will probably have to be explained somewhat due to reason above..work history.

    I would probably try getting a DOT physical done and see if you can get cleared for a two year certification. You’re going to need it anyway for the CDL school. Should be somewhere around $80-$120. fill out the medical questionnaire accurately but don’t give more information than is necessary.

    Same with potential employers. Stick to basic facts that satisfy the questions without rambling on shooting your self in the foot. Unnecessary personal information just keep to yourself.

    The failure rate in this industry is extremely high. Reality of the job vs outsiders perception usually clash and they fail or just move on in short order.

    Personally I’d think long and hard about giving up your disability benefits when the odds of making it trucking are stacked against you. However it’s your choice to make and I respect that.

    fwiw..if there’s a Sage Truck Driving school nearby, that’s the one you want. Will be through a college and it’s one on one driving.

    Good luck!
     
  4. JB7

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    "It will HAVE to be brought up to any employer that I have been on disability."
    No. You are too honest, look what happened with Swift. Applications ask if you have a disability, I have never seen or heard of one that asks if you have been on it or collected. I would check the disability box. You have worked, just not a full time job. You say that your mother is disabled, you look after her and help her. You stretch the amount of work that you have done on your own. Keep personal info to a minimum. Only answer what they ask. Same thing that is said about testifying in court.
    You don't want anyone to think that you have not worked because of your disability. Your disability has not kept you from traveling or doing work, you just have not had a full-time job.
    Your disability has not gone away so why would anyone take a chance on you if you still have the disability, have not worked full time because of it, but all of a sudden want to work? Your financial or potential financial situation is irrelevant.
     
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  5. BenWolf

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    That's encouraging to hear.

    I have absolutely no worries about passing DOT physical. I'm waiting until I speak to the community college, before I do anything else. I may also go talk to someone at the state rehab office to get their input. Unless I actually start doing stuff, they can't hold it against me, just for asking questions.

    At one time, probably 10 years ago by now, I started to pursue "ticket to work", but I was not just not into the idea enough at the time after all, and I bailed out after one orientation session at the state rehab dept. The ticket was closed because I quit, and it had no effect on my SSDI. I have received the short form CDR 2-3 times since then. I fill out the bare minimum the form asks for, (are you working? y/n. have you talked about returning to work with your doctor? y/n) and don't write anything in the comments section, and the computer system automatically approves it. I used to get in person reviews every 4 years, but after so many times, they stop bothering because it's a waste of money. If you write in the comments section, it flags it for a person to review and you'll almost guaranteed to get the full review by having to see a doctor.

    Righto. I admit, I tend to blab too much sometimes. Introverts can be like that. I do try to keep a lid on it, when appropriate.

    So I've read, especially with OTR. It's not for everyone. It takes a certain kind of personality to be able to do it. Am I that kind? I think I am, but... who knows? I know I don't want to do beverage(coke/pepsi)/food service(sysco), or flatbed either probably. I know my limitations.

    Oh, trust me, I am. I haven't actually started doing anything yet really. I'm merely at the inquiry stage at this point. No forms have been summitted to SSA, no classes have been signed up for, no job lined up. If it's a 3+ month waiting list for the CDL class, I'll probably have them add me to it. If things change, I can call and say to drop me from it.

    In theory, I should have protections with SSA to get back on it quickly, if I try to work and fail. This official SSA page explains it concisely: Try returning to work without losing Disability

    Depending on how things are looking in the next few weeks, I'll know better what my decision needs to be. I'm just trying to mentally prepare myself for what may be coming. And regardless of how good things seem, I'm going to be stashing every cent I can in savings for the next several months, on top of my existing savings.

    There is a "resource limit" imposed on me, due to the state paying my Medicare premium, due to being so low income. If you go over the limit, she state says "oh! you have over X dollars saved for a rainy day, but still live on poverty level fixed monthly income? well, now we're going to penalize you by making you pay 10-20% of your monthly income on Medicare premiums, until you spend some of your savings!". That's what the "they keep you poor" is about.

    So, I want as much money saved as possible without it harming my monthly income, in case the checks start being delayed, or even stop entirety. Even just temporarily would be devastating to people like my mom. It's not outside the realm of possibility, due to the utterly insane IT crap they're wanting to do.. rushing a 2 year job into a 2 month span, involving very fragile, 60 year old COBOL computer code.

    If nothing happens, well great. No harm, no foul. I'll have money to savings to fall back on for a sudden big expense or whatever. But if something does happen, I'll be able to support myself and my mom for a good several months while I scramble to do... something.... anything.

    The nearest one appears to be 3+ hours away. A bit too far vs the community college 40 minutes away.

    Thanks!
     
  6. Ridgeline

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    Yes it is, but see here is the difference between you and others/me. We have been around this industry for years, we know what it takes to get hired and what a poor or crap driver is. IF we just answer your question by writing fluff stuff that you want to hear, then we do you an injustice but more importantly we add to the problems that we have in this industry.

    However, if we challenge you, we tell you the hard truth and all of the other things you think is crap, then it is to better equip you for this industry if you do decide to push through with the idea.

    Like it or not we are being really mild here.
    Actually I did.
    There it is, I want to know why, I don't want to hear the typical "i always wanted to be a truck driver" crap but a true inside look at why, what this will do for you (other than money), and so on.

    research how?

    This is the first time I am reading anything from you, so this is where you start. Watching videos, listening to those super truckers, well nope.

    Yes, you start here and you go to a truck stop and you ask questions.

    Now the problem is this - when you start with a book of your life (*which isn't really wrong), you lay everything out there, many won't dig deeper into it for you, they will just give you a canned response and that's it.

    So it is a two way street, it starts with you not being defensive, stop taking things personally as if we all know who you are, and most of all, listening to all opinions whether you like them or not (OR OR whether they fit your needs).
    That tells me you really need to listen more than anyone else.

    See going out and doing work isn't the same as working for someone else. 5 or 25 or 100 years without answering to someone about the work or having someone to trust you with a huge responsibility really matters a lot.
    Yes read it again ...
    I hire drivers, I am no longer drive.
    Nope you didn't in your replys but your opening post screamed it. As others said, don't delve into it, companies do not care, they do not.
    Training gets you a cdl, it does not get you to the point to drive one safely.

    See the most important lesson I learned when I was driving a truck (long before CDL crap) was how easy it is to drive a truck, but what is hard is knowing what to do when something goes wrong. I think with todays' lack of real training coupled with the trucks that drive like large station wagons, we have more unsafe, crap drivers.
    nope not wrong, especially about that subject.
     
  7. BenWolf

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    I have no documented past work history. Is that not what employers want? Or do are they just trusting souls who don't ask any questions if you put absolutely nothing on the form for past jobs?

    The only thing I can possibly say about my past is I'm disabled on disability and have done completely undocumented casual gig jobs for a handful of people (often for friends) over the years. If they ask about my history, do I say that, or do I just sit there in complete silence and saying nothing? Pretty sure that's end of interview at that point if you go stone cold silent and just stare at them.

    My thought process, as severely flawed as it seems to be, is to say "I never worked part or full time job because I never needed to. Now I feel I am going to have to" I guess i see how saying that out loud isn't a good thing in front of employers, but how else can I possibly explain it, without lying. I'm not a good liar, and won't lie for others who want me to.

    A former neighbor I did an auto repair favor for on her daughter's car that was overheating (removed the thermostat per her request, cheapest fix, because they had no money for a new thermostat even), and she wanted me to lie about some possible future issue with the car (i don't remember what). I refused. I'm wasn't going to feel responsible for her breaking down on her way to work because her mom told me to lie about it. I told her when she returned to pick up the car. Her mom just made a face and walked away.

    So basically, I shouldn't even try
     
  8. bad-luck

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    I think your lack of work history is your biggest obstacle.

    Also, trucking is not stress free. Actually there is quite a bit of stress. Do you think you can handle the stress?
     
  9. tscottme

    tscottme Road Train Member

    While your personality may be well suited to doing this job, the fact you have little or no work history, plus an extensive medical history means the chances of you getting hired for normal CDL jobs is slim. DO NOT WASTE your time and anybody's money getting a CDL just to see what happens. Use whatever money is available to start another trade besides truck driving.

    THERE IS NO TRUCK DRIVER SHORTAGE. Many newbies with nothing in their background are waiting a long time to get hired. You will wait a lot longer than they will. There are other ways to make a living. Do one of them. There are lots of people online and on YouTube that work infrequently at seasonal jobs and take care of themselves. One YT channel doing this in AdventureVanMan. He works on the North/South Dakota Sugar Beet harvest for a few weeks, he works on a fishing boat in Alaska for a few weeks, works as a camp site host for a few weeks, etc. In a year he might work 3-6 months per year and live all year on the money he earns in those few work periods. Don't focus on 1 job that will fix all of your problems. Focus on 1 job at a time.
     
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  10. Concorde

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    Periods of SSDI count towards the employment history required. This is a non issue, just look it up on fmcsa. I wasn’t guessing when I posted previously.

    search words to try..
    “fmcsa ssdi employment history”
     
    BenWolf Thanks this.
  11. tscottme

    tscottme Road Train Member


    If you are going to watch enough fake TV news to convince yourself the world is ending, you didn't want any help. You wanted people to recognize your excuse for giving up. The same fake TV people that idolized Musk a year ago are now calling him satan now until they decide someone else is satan. I've lived through 5 or 6 "they're gonna cut all the benefit check" produced hysteria events. This one is just the first you might remember. Because you have been reliant on govt checks you are living as if govt checks are life, they are not. People get jobs and live without govt checks, so can you. But it's easier to build an hysterical reaction and build a life so people build the hysterical reaction. The people that make money off of you having that govt reaction are creating the "doomsday news" to get what they want. They are using you. Getting a job is how you control your life. Staying on govt checks is how you stay in the prison they built for you. Truck driving is not for you, but there are jobs that are for you.
     
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