KW won't idle above 68F like previous truck. Company mechanic says that's normal now.

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  1. DavidInPuyallup

    DavidInPuyallup Bobtail Member

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    Hi guys,

    TL:DR Truck won't idle 5+mins when it's hot outside. Company mechanic says "that's no longer a thing, use auto stop start" and when requested to look at the ECM claims they can't do anything

    Full story:

    So I work for a Mega and used to have an international, I put 200K on it with this company before the transmission had problems. My international would idle above 68 degrees and below 25. My coworkers have a mixture of trucks, international and Kenworth. All of their trucks are set the same, no idle over 5 minutes unless things meet the outside temperature properly.

    My newly assigned truck is a 2023 KW T680.
    It has an APU & No Auto stop/start.

    I'm at the terminal in Phoenix and even at 90 degrees it still shuts off after 5 minutes. I don't need to run the truck ALL night, I just wanted to get the truck cooled off and then swap to the APU. It has also been annoying babysitting the gas pedal when idling to run appliances. I also liked to leave the truck idling with AC on after fueling and running into the bathroom/get a drink after fueling when I had the international.
    Not to mention the start up process for this KW takes longer with the electronic dash and everything going through the checks.

    Since I'm at a terminal getting work done I had them check the ECM and said the truck won't idle even though the temp is above 68F. After they worked on it, it still had the problem. The mechanic informs me they only checked the ECM for codes and it's not something they can turn off or on anymore because too many people were idling. He said the company did away with the temperature thing, so I informed him about my coworkers saying "they must be lucky they haven't gotten new trucks" but one coworker actually has a 2024 Kenworth with this company and it idles when above 68F. He didn't believe me.

    I'm wondering what I should do next. Most workarounds involve the temp. I'm not looking forward to if I speak to him about this issue tomorrow. I'm also considering speaking to safety. Though I'm not sure anything would happen.

    Any reasonable advice?
     
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  3. tscottme

    tscottme Road Train Member

    Even if you find a trick to overcome the 5 minute idle limit, your idle time will stand out like a sore thumb to the company. The last few minutes your are driving you can run the truck AC on max to chill the cab. The instant you get parked fire up the APU & start blasting the AC & throw up the winshield curtains. If you are going to sleep in the truck close the sleeper curtains to trap the cold AC output in the sleeper.

    Don't focus on how unfair the world is, focus on getting the truck interior cool enough to sleep.
     
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  4. tscottme

    tscottme Road Train Member

    If your truck doesn't have windshield curtains you can use black or dark blue beach towels. It might cost $20 or less from Walmart
     
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  5. Lazer

    Lazer Road Train Member

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    Sounds like to company wants you to use the APU, instead of ideling. The mechanic was 1/2 truthful. There are things that can be done, that part is true but, the other 1/2 of the truth is, it won’t be by him, company orders. So in a truth way, there is nothing ‘he’ can do.
     
  6. DavidInPuyallup

    DavidInPuyallup Bobtail Member

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    Yes, if it doesn't meet the temperature parameters many use lighters on the temperature sensor that's on the mirror
     
  7. Lazer

    Lazer Road Train Member

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    Years ago, there were a few tricks that would work.
    Set trailer brakes only, have transmission in neutral, then bump up the cruise control.
    Set tractor brakes only, transmission in neutral, bump up the cruise control.
    Chock the wheels, all brakes released, transmission in neutral, bump up the cruise control.
    Try those.
     
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  8. tarmadilo

    tarmadilo Road Train Member

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    What he said. Chill it down while you still have the engine running.
     
  9. Melika0829

    Melika0829 Bobtail Member

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    I wish my truck had an APU or Opti Idle. I miss that....
     
  10. Hammer166

    Hammer166 Crusty Information Officer

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    The truckstops sell a full width curtain that hooks on the visor hangers at the side and goes behind the visors themselves. Less hassle than towels.
     
  11. tarmadilo

    tarmadilo Road Train Member

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    My first truck was a 2014 KW T-660 that didn’t have front curtains. I got some large cardboard boxes and cut out pieces to fit the windows. Looked a little cheap, but worked great for blackout shades!
     
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