unfair labor standards in the industry in general

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  1. drier.

    drier. Bobtail Member

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    I think I found the problem in tuck diving.

    it's unfair labor standards. ironically there was laws passed aimed at trying to prevent or mitigate that.

    parcel and ltl, control pricing. and also set unfair pricing and use it to do unfair competition. always offering higher wages and work conditions than other sectors, and their ability to price gouge can halt demand in all the other layers of the supply chain this includes alot of the freight in the ftl sector of trucking full truck load, which alot of mega carriers haul that freight.

    but the mega carriers have a semi oppressive position on economy aswell as they predatorally steal all the contracts from the shippers recievers, leaving the ultra small companies unable to compete.

    so this leaves it to be the bottom, is small trucking companies who are kind of pushed around by the mega carriers and the mega carriers are kind of beneath ltl and parcel and pushed around by their practices that affects the rest of the market.


    so what is the solution? is there any points i presented that you disagree with, i would love to hear the strongest debate points for and against it.
     
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  3. Iamoverit

    Iamoverit Road Train Member

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    Megas are actually the minority of trucks on the road. There are more independents than megas companies. Independents have the ability to serve more niche markets or to offer services the megas cannot such as JIT or white glove.

    On the flip side, smaller independents can't service a very large customer with volume. They simply don't have the ability to leave 300 trailers sitting at a customer's location so they can load at will or use for overflow portable warehousing. Megas control the market with their money. They pay Congress to pass laws that benefit them.

    Most of the pay issues stem from a law passed in 1935 that exempt interstate drivers from being paid overtime. Also, the pay protocols of mileage, percentage, load etc are all designed to make the carrier more money, not to maximize driver's salary.

    Drivers give away so much labor for free when not paid hourly. It's amazing they continue to find people willing to do it. I guess that's why so many of them are homeless.
     
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  4. rollin coal

    rollin coal Road Train Member

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    I read somewhere that when the exemption for paying drivers overtime was made a regulation the idea and reasoning behind it was to keep drivers from pushing too hard and working too many hours. The theory being if drivers weren't paid overtime they wouldn't want to work a bunch of extra hours. It was for safety and keep in mind this is also when the original HOS regs were created. But it ended up backfiring and not working out as intended. The cynic in me thinks that somebody with an interest in cheap driver wages put that BS out there to get support for the driver overtime exemption.
     
  5. Knightcrawler

    Knightcrawler Road Train Member

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    As an owner-operator this may sound absurd, but I grew up in a teamster household. My father was a city driver, only worked for 1 company his whole life so...

    I dont know if it could be done, but what they truly need to do to "fix" the problem is to bring back regulation in the trucking industry. It would effectively kill most owner-operators but it would bring back the standards and pay the drivers once had in this country. The side benefit is it would dramatically reduce the numbers of foreign drivers that so many of you worry about...
     
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  6. drier.

    drier. Bobtail Member

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    they can through amazon and fedex ground. however the method that amazon and fedex ground uses to facilite these systems is very questionable. they assign routes and have enough control that they should be doing that to their own company drivers not 3rd parties.

    however, they allowed small companies to move their freight though. although amazon doesn't provide yards to park trucks, fedex ground does.
     
  7. drier.

    drier. Bobtail Member

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    i forgot to mention that my perspective is mostly from company driver perspective for people looking for work as company drivers. i havn't seen small companies offer as high labor standards, fixing trucks, competitive wages, or schedules, etc. as far as like looking for work. i feel that the small companies are less able to compete to provide the basic things drivers need. labor standards, pay, ability to do the job or trucks fixed, or needing to run hours of service unreasonable, etc.
     
  8. kemosabi49

    kemosabi49 Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    I can't see lumping Amazon haulers and FedEx Ground in the same category, except maybe the way they can't keep the trucks upright. FedEx does have control but the trucks are not run by single O/O. they are run by multi unit owners and the drivers are all paid on a W2. Amazon runs single O/Os, most with trucks being held together with duct tape and baking wire, into the ground and then cuts them off.
     
  9. rollin coal

    rollin coal Road Train Member

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    Amazon isn't just single owner operators. All those brand new semi trucks in the Amazon colors and logo's you see are owned by contractors same as FedEx Ground. Amazon doesn't own any of those. They're all lease arrangements separating Amazon from liability and shucking off expenses on gullible "fleet owner entrepreneurs".
     
  10. kemosabi49

    kemosabi49 Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    Haven't seen any of those around here. Just the same old junky trucks.
     
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  11. rollin coal

    rollin coal Road Train Member

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    They're all over the country everywhere daycabs, sleepers. See pic below. Looks like company owned equipment all late model stuff but it's not.

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