Floating without blipping throttle

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by BilboLaggin, Jul 16, 2025 at 8:53 PM.

  1. BilboLaggin

    BilboLaggin Bobtail Member

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    Question for the experienced drivers. While trying to float smoothly I have found that downshifting at 1250 rpms seems to be what works for me. My question is, I have found when I ‘blip’ the throttle or raise the rpms I sometimes seems to miss it, however if I put pressure on the accelerator to pull the stick out of gear, and then maintain pressure, don’t lets the rpms fall but don’t raise them either I find that it just slides into the next gear smoothly if I do it right. Pulling it out around 1250, and sliding into the next gear down at 1250, and then once it’s in the next gear my rpms will increase a couple hundred or so and start slowing me down with the jake. I should note I’m running an 18 speed and usually splitting while downshifting. Is this correct if it’s smooth? The reason I ask is because people say to blip the throttle or increase your rpms until you feel where it wants to go in. If my rpms drop off or maybe my speed increases/decreases and I miss that window then I have to blip the throttle or raise the rpms which sometimes takes a few tries and I may shift down a full gear if it takes too long but if I get it right it slides in.
     
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  3. Oldman83

    Oldman83 Medium Load Member

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    I always bring the rpm up (blip the throttle) to match the next lower gear.
    I run a 13 speed and rarely split the downshifts.
    Jake down to 1,400rpm, slip it out of gear, swing it up to 1,900rpm, slip it into the next lower gear, repeat as needed.
     
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  4. W923

    W923 Road Train Member

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    Seems like you must be finding enough slack in the driveline to accommodate the difference in speed and doing it at low rpm decreases the difference in rpm as opposed to downshifting at higher rpm. I can’t imagine your getting much use out of the Jake at that rpm. I guess as long as it goes in and all the way to the detent before the slack takes up your probably not hurting it but almost have to be slipping some teeth which over time will wear the sliding clutches and forks as well as the internal teeth in the gears and eventually it will pop out of gear. The rate at which this happens will strongly related to how much force you apply and how far off of the perfect speed you are
     
  5. BilboLaggin

    BilboLaggin Bobtail Member

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    Thank you for the reply W923. It does feel smooth when it slides in. Not sure how much it effects this but the torque range for that motor looks to be around 1000-1400 and the jakes still seem to be slowing me down but I believe I was told that at higher rpm they work better. This has just been something that has worked for me downshifting but also want to do it correctly.
     
    Last edited: Jul 16, 2025 at 11:30 PM
  7. Animosus

    Animosus Heavy Load Member

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    Might work climbing a hill or on a flat spot because you are basically just waiting for your road speed to drop down to the same RPM but in the lower gear. But if you are going down hill at all you will never be able to down shift unless you bring the RPM up to match your road speed to your engine RPM in that gear.
     
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  8. TripleSix

    TripleSix God of Roads

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    Driving a manual has a rhythm. When jumping rope, you don’t watch the rope, you listen for it. As soon as you learn rhythm, you don’t miss. When hearing a speedbag, you hear a rhythm. Whether you hit the bag fast or slow, the rhythm is the same.

    Floating goes by the same concept. In a big diesel, it’s much slower, BUT it’s the same. Go to YouTube and look for videos with shifting. Listen to the engine’s rpm and watch when the driver shifts. When it clicks in your mind, you can never forget.

    Luck in battle.
     
  9. Ex-Trucker Alex

    Ex-Trucker Alex Road Train Member

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    You know, once you get the hang of it, you do it more by feel than anything...so all the timing, listening, watching the tach, etc. will soon be just trivial when you "get the knack".
     
  10. DannyB

    DannyB Medium Load Member

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    My Dad taught me to drive a truck. In a truck without a working tachometer. It's done with feel and ear. To this day I have no idea what rpm I shift at.
    And yes, every time I encounter an autoshift truck going through a lot, I keep repeating "shift moron. SHIFT!" o_O
     
  11. OldeSkool

    OldeSkool Road Train Member

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    After over a year in an automatic truck I’m not sure if I’d go back to manual if I had the option. I finally have gotten fairly used to it, and even kind of like it.

    Ok, now we can start the technical argument about how it isn’t really an automatic transmission. That’s what usually happens.
     
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