The Barr Nunn Illusion: High mileage pay, low miles

Discussion in 'Motor Carrier Questions - The Inside Scoop' started by flightwatch, Nov 18, 2025.

  1. smokey12

    smokey12 Road Train Member

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    This sounds like a job for retired guys that want to get out of the house and dont mind 3 weeks driving sitting around in empty parking lots/truckstops, then 9 days off. I wouldn't mind that gig since I am one of them but dang I can't stand sitting around truckstops then getting a 400 mile load..ill pass. Those stupid top carrier pay lists mean absolutely nothing.
     
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  3. '88K100

    '88K100 Road Train Member

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    Friend took .06 cpm pay cut to work for my past employer. Same issues.
    It was taking him 12 hours to knock off 300 miles constantly due to poor dispatching/management
     
  4. rollin coal

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    OP you should let people know you only worked there for about a month. It's really not a legit sample to be projecting year long numbers imo.
     
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  5. flightwatch

    flightwatch Road Train Member

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    That's fair. I worked there long enough to verify the company's business model, which is the point of the post. You don't need a year to know a system is fundamentally broken.

    1: The $102K target is statistically impossible based on the company's own offered work schedule.
    2:The 34-hour layover policy is a fixed policy, not a subjective experience.
    3: The 1,800–2,200 miles/week average is what their own long-term drivers and members of management confirmed.

    I saw the low mileage, I saw the layover policy, and I saw the 3rd party trucks taking my freight. It would be financially irresponsible to stay a year to verify that a $32,000 pay gap exists. I left when the facts proved the promise was a lie.
     
  6. TurkeyCreekJackJohnson

    TurkeyCreekJackJohnson Medium Load Member

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    I'm not belittling your experience i actually like the info. This could be a thing. Driver/s do/does exactly what you have done in this instance. Get the job, get the ground truth, post up facts and numbers and others could use the info as decision making tool. Expose the lies, deceptions or the highlight the redeeming qualities.
     
  7. panty snacher

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    I don’t know anything about Barr nun the 2200 might be what you average but if $100,000 is your goal I would stay in the dispatcher’s ear I would bet that’s what this top tier is doing the squeaky wheel gets the grease. I don’t know how naive I am .Wal Mart I wouldn’t believe that you could take of 9 days vacation every month if you do you’re not making that $100,000 LTL some are making 100,000 those are the top tier also you will have to put in some years b4 you get enough seniority to get those runs and yes some fuel drivers can get to $ 100,000 that 12 hour shifts 5 days and quite a few 6 day weeks.But the big question to me is why do I have a 98,000 a year home every day and I do work 1 Saturday a month and you took a job at a mega starter company and im the naive one?
     
  8. flightwatch

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    Thanks for proving my point. Your whole response ignores the math and shifts the blame. You suggest running 3,800 miles/week is possible if I just pester dispatch. If a 'top-tier' company can only provide adequate miles to the squeakiest 10%, that means the other 90% are being financially exploited. A professional carrier plans freight; they don't reward being an annoyance.

    My post proved that Barr-Nunn's operational failure (the 34-hour uncompensated layover and the 3rd-party outsourcing) prevents them from delivering the necessary miles to meet their provided compensation, regardless of how much time I took off.

    Congratulations on your great job. My post wasn't an attack on your career; it was a warning about Barr-Nunn's broken business model. If you have to insult a driver who left a flawed system to justify your own salary, that's not a defense of Barr-Nunn—it's a massive red flag about your own insecurity.

    Lastly, Barr-Nunn isn’t a mega starter. They run between 600 and 700 trucks, and require 9 months of experience. Furthermore, Walmart drivers do take that much time off every month. While Walmart does offer numerous different schedules to bid on, most drivers are on a 5/2 schedule. That’s 8 days off every month. Yet they can clear $100k/year rather easily. I know several guys that are clearing $130k-140k every year there. I should know as I drove for them for over 5 years. There’s a reason why I went to Barr-Nunn after leaving Walmart, and it had everything to do with the 6 figure lifestyle my family has, and my attempt to continue bringing in the amount of money we have grown accustomed to.
     
  9. wulfman75

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    wait you left wal mart for barr nunn? Don't know what to tell ya dude. I talked to Barr last year when I was looking for a company and just reading the ad and talking to a couple of drivers I knew the math wasn't mathing and passed.
     
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  10. flightwatch

    flightwatch Road Train Member

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    I didn’t leave Walmart FOR Barr-Nunn. I left Walmart for personal reasons I won't get into here and spent time researching companies that could replace my high salary and provide home time. Barr-Nunn was the best available option based on the available information at the time.

    That's why I wrote this post. TTR has a lot of valuable information, but most of it is outdated as most people have moved on to different social media outlets. If I had come across a post that detailed the operational flaws that Barr-Nunn has, it would have given me great pause before accepting the job.
     
  11. rollin coal

    rollin coal Road Train Member

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    Well freight ebbs and flows and a month sample ain't a tell on anything. You haven't even been there long enough for them to even know if you're dependable or not. Sounds like you went in there with a witch hunt sort of attitude looking to find something wrong. Attitude can make you or break you no matter what the job.
     
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