Long haul for less per mile?

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by edmachi, Nov 3, 2025.

  1. edmachi

    edmachi Bobtail Member

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    So much good advice. Thanks. Got homework to do. I do keep a log of the runs done and mileage. Was keeping the miles between points, but the decided to log mileage when I started the run until I park at the home yard or the fuel stop between loads.
     
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  3. Rideandrepair

    Rideandrepair Road Train Member

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    I think a more accurate way is to start per trip mileage with deadhead miles, end mileage at delivery point. Doesn’t matter where you go once empty, straight to next Load, Truckstop, or Home, The empty (deadhead) miles will be the cost to get the next load. Keep track of loaded per mile rate, and w/deadhead per mile rate. Shows actual per mile revenue. You can add all actual revenue and divide by all actual miles at anytime. Per round trip, weekly, monthly, annually. Learning what loads work best.
     
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  4. FloridaRetired

    FloridaRetired Medium Load Member

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    Counting empty miles or playing with a calculator to see what your rate per mile is, won't get you more money.
    If you can get $3500 from Rochelle, IL to WM DC Cheyenne, WY or Denver, CO, sure, grab it. That's enough revenue over 3 days to bounce back to Omaha, NE 450 empty miles and get yourself a load going further east. 450 - 700 miles of dh is a quite a bit but who cares, if you have $3000 after fuel in 3 days. If you could only avarage $1000 after fuel every working day, I don't care what your rate per mile or deadhead is.
     
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  5. NorthEastTrucker

    NorthEastTrucker Heavy Load Member

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    Reloads have been the issue since spring regarding certain lanes. Many will hype up $3.17 cpm one way for 600 miles. When running the spot market but never give the full story toward a lack of a reload back or elsewhere paying even $1.35 cpm sometimes deading back entirely. As much as they might avg. $2.26 cpm for that lane many seem to never factor in the extra 2 days it took to get the reload or something decent going back out wiping out the entire week. This starts eating away at the weekly and in some cases monthly averages. Factor in ones cost fuels, tolls, other expenses etc. It becomes difficult to sustain. In many cases staying closer within a less than 180 mile radius at reasonable rates of $2.95 cpm or more even in some cases deadheading back. Will generate more in the end even after fuel expenses if because when deadheading back your burning at least 1/5th less when there's no load.
     
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  6. edmachi

    edmachi Bobtail Member

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    Thanks been applying the formulas:
    Running the actual miles from truck location to destination. Meaning including DH miles then:

    rate \ actual miles= rpm
    Miles\ miles per gallon= total gallons
    Gallons * $ per gallon= fuel cost
    Rate-fuel cost= gross (- tolls/fees etc)
    Miles\60mph= time to destination (not including load/unload)
    Days between PU and delivery= total days
    Gross earning divided by days= daily earnings

    decide if it’s worth it
     
  7. Kruse Family Farms

    Kruse Family Farms Light Load Member

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    I try to profit as close to $1,000 bucks a day as I can. (If I leave the house) I look more at money per day than RPM. Especially with how ####ty the market has been for the past 3 years or so. And I don't expect it to get any better any time soon. Everyone has different overhead and other bills to pay. So whatever works for you. For a bit I was getting tripped up over RPM concerns and was wasting days not making as much money as I could be. Everyone does different stuff though.
     
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  8. edmachi

    edmachi Bobtail Member

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    Thanks
     
  9. Siinman

    Siinman Road Train Member

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    Daily Revenue is the only way a O/O that does OTR should look at. Of course you want to keep track of everything but don't trip yourself up over RPM. Sitting and waiting for RPM to be met in a hard market will cause you to sit more. If you want to live in the truck it is a good thing I guess. If you want to have a life outside of trucking and get home then it is a bad thing.

    I hardly ever do 34's on the road, Meaning the whole time I have been out since 2019 I have done maybe 3 or 4 on the road. I want to make X amount every day I am out. The only time I set is when I am at home and I make sure to get the best rate I can. Normally this will be a 2-3 day run and will have 1500-2000 a day to start out. Once that is started I try to stay at 1500 a day but will dip to 1200 or lower if need be to get in the right area.

    This trip started out from Home and dead headed 200 miles to pick up a load. Something I never do but it was well worth the extra 200 miles.
    Got 6K for the load and it was on truck for 3 days.
    2nd load short load but was 1495 for one day.
    no load and dead headed to a better area since it was the 1st and no one open.
    3rd load was 2500 for 1 day just finished it. Weekend load
    4th load will be for 1136 and 1 day on truck. Weekend load
    5th load 1698 picks up Monday morning. 1 day on truck
    Have eyes on 6th load and will pay min 2400 for two days on truck. I am starting to run recaps on this week so won't need to take a 34. I will go home most likely on that last load.

    Normally I do not stay out this long and run close to my 70 and go back home for a 34 or few days off. The money was decent so I am running. Not sure on the miles yet but most of these loads are a full day worth of work but one short 400 mile load. I do 500-700 miles a day and do not do a lot of short runs. Most runs are 600 miles a day. I do this kind of work because lots of people are too lazy to run those loads in time sensitive runs.
     
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  10. edmachi

    edmachi Bobtail Member

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    Wow, those numbers are great. Are you driving a flatbed or conestoga?
     
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  11. Siinman

    Siinman Road Train Member

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    Dry Van and I run my own numbers.
     
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