Air ride cut off with 2.64 Meritor rear ends

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  1. mile marker 27

    mile marker 27 Road Train Member

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    My FIL, that’s wanting to build a 4070B, has found and purchased an International ProStar cutoff that has Meritor rear ends. All that sounded fine to me and then I asked, “what rear ends” he sent me a pic of the details. What am I supposed to do with this gear ratio? He’s gonna use the truck for hopper bottom, end dump, some flatbed and pull a pot, occasionally. When he told me what rears it had, I gave him the “side eye”. Truck is gonna have a fresh BC 400 and I WAS, gonna put one of my RTO14615’s in it, for him. I would’ve liked 3.73 or 3.55’s but this is what he brought home. image000001.jpeg
     
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    Go to an RT12515 or 14615 and you might be ok. The RTO isn’t gonna have enough low hole. Personally I’d install it cause he bought it and swap the chunks for what he needs.


    A lot of them ol big cams were 4:11 with a direct 9. 3:55 was a tall gear for em with a direct 9. So 2.64 well…
     
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    The RT14615 is a direct drive 15, isn’t it? He’d probably be ok with that transmission but I’m not sure if I would. My gut tells me, that’s not what you want for what we do but hell, I’m wrong on #### alot. With 2.64’s on 24.5 tall rubber and a 15 direct, any idea how fast the truck runs? My RTO14615 with 3.55’s is just about long legged enough for what I do. I’m in the camp of finding some different chunks and I mentioned that to him and it kinda deflated him. I’m suggesting to him 3.73 on up to 3.55’s, with the RTO14615. Any other ideas?
     
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    IMG_0015.png Why would the 15 direct not work for you for what you do?

    Higher rears need less over drive at road speed and more reduction to get rolling. A 15 direct is lower geared all the way around than a 15 over so again why wouldn’t it work.

    2.64 rears a 1.1 trans and 24 talls is 81mph at 1800 RPM. Exactly how fast you want an old binder to run? The problem you’re gonna have is lifting in soft dirt and the side load from that big ### pinion. Above is a ratio chart for a 15. Higher the number the lower the gear or more reduction. A 15 direct has more reduction than any other trans beside a 2 stick. You’re gonna need that on a gutless big cam.
     
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    mile marker 27 Road Train Member

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    I guess I can’t dispute you, on the “gutless” cause my 15’s are behind a yellow motor and white motor.
    It may work and that’s plenty fast enough but I think swapping the chunks and using the RTO might be a better, of the two options. He’s drove both my 4MG and 7FB, with 15’s, quite abit and I told him the BC 400 ain’t gonna feel the same. Look, I’m just a son in law.
     
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    Is deep reduction gonna be lower with the RT and 2.64’s, than DR in a RTO and 3.73’s or 3.55’s?
     
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    I can figure it but rather not I can tell you from experience it’s really close. But you are correct that it’s better to go lower out back not running the boulevard. Reason I say that is the higher your rears the more teeth is on the pinion. The more teeth the pinion has the farther away from center the ring gear has to sit on the carrier. This causes a side load effect from simple leverage. Now with 90k in the hopper and 16.94 reduction something is gonna move. Be it the load intended, the drive line twisting or the differential carrier ####ting it’s self out the back of the housing. If you were staying on hard surface I’d say you’re probably ok with the high rears and direct. However I will say if you decide to go high rears and an RTO you’ll hate that m’fer
     
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    I’ll show him this. He’s seen me kinda shake my head. Not necessarily from experience but rather what little I do know and my gut. He needs something practical but he’s been watching the car chase scene on White Lightning, I guess. I want to put something together that he wants but also makes sense and not some ignorant arse story at a truck show. I’m the one who’s gotta wrench on these rascals, so no more catastrophe’s than necessary.
     
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    I run 2.74s on tall 24.5 was on a 15 speed to begin and now an 18spd, I cruise in direct at a little over 1500 rpm's at 73 mph, if I am not at highway speeds I am down in 15th or 14th gear which is kinda messes with your head at first, I have a c15 if it was a mechanical I would probably spend alot more time in 15th 15th at 70 mph is right at 1700 rpm, the truck pulls effortlessly at this speed, You just have to get used to not using your overdrives. The one thing I will say is if you are using it as a farm truck taking off loaded on soft ground I wouldn't keep those gears, you are going to end up damaging driveline stuff, it is a pain getting going on real soft ground and hills, and are going to end up breaking stuff, defeating any fuel mileage savings you see from the gears, my truck is a highway princess and the gears work good for me.
     
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    I preciate it. If I were installing a C15, that be one less issue of concern, with said gears.
     
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