Sign a contract?

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by duckdaddy, Jun 24, 2010.

  1. duckdaddy

    duckdaddy Bobtail Member

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    So I have my own truck and 53ft van and authority, and I have been using the load boards for a while. I have a few steady lanes and now that its summer loads are easier to come by. Well today I was talking to a company that wants me to run 450 miles a day mon - fri for like $14k a month . But they want me to sign a 1 yr contract. I havent ever done this before. My truck has like 630k miles on it and I am not sure it will make it for the whole year. I was thinking about getting a lease through ryder or penske but I havent looked into it yet. :biggrin_25524: Any one out there do contract work, that wants to give me some advice?? thanks in advance.
     
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  3. Eskimo6804

    Eskimo6804 Heavy Load Member

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    Just go through the contract line by line. Do all of the math as to what it will cost you to operate, and if that leaves you an acceptable profit, do it if you want. Just be sure that everything that they have told you is written into the contract. Don't just take their word for it. Make sure their are also provisions in that contract to cover unforeseen things like excessive detention, cancelled loads, etc.

    As for the truck having 630k miles on it....That is just getting broke in. I run three trucks over the road in my fleet. Two of them have more miles than that one, one of which has almost 2 million on it. That truck still runs 11-13,000 miles monthly and makes me a decent profit. Yes, it takes a little more money to maintain it properly, but not as much more as you might think. Besides that, not having any payments sure pays for a crapload of maintenance work.
     
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  4. JPenn

    JPenn Road Train Member

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    A Ryder or Penske account can be a good safety in case your truck or trailer needs to go into a shop but you have loads to move anyway. Yeah, you're gonna pay for it, but you also come through for the customer and they tend to appreciate that.
     
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  5. Winchester Magnum

    Winchester Magnum Road Train Member

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    Sounds like this company foresees a truck shortage AND wants a cheap contract. My math came out to $1.44/mile and there is no FSC built in. I dont see diesel going nuts like it did two years ago, but still one never knows. I do think it will only go up from here though.

    117,000 miles/year.......$168,000 year = $1.44/mile

    The M-F gig sounds sweet, assuming you live on one end of the run, but they money isnt there imo.
     
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  6. Gears

    Gears Trucker Forum STAFF - Gone, But Not Forgotten.

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    Hear that. I'd be REALLY hesitant to sign a contract. Magnum made some good points up above.
     
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  7. toofast82

    toofast82 Light Load Member

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    I would be VERY hesitant to accept that account unless your operating expenses were VERY low. That seems to be at most ~$1.50/mile
    I'd definitely make them a counter offer substantially higher, lol

    As far as Penske or Ryder, there rates right now are about $800/wk & 16c/mile(Penske) and 21c/mile(ryder).
    If you've been in business for a little bit and have some money in the business account and good credit, you could get a new lease from Peterbilt,International,Freightshaker,etc for about $450-500wk and 7-9c/mile possibly.
    But at that proposed pay amount, you'll might be broke in no time with any rental/lease.
     
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  8. duckdaddy

    duckdaddy Bobtail Member

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    LOL you guys must be driving on another planet. I bid on the contract and didnt even get it at 1.35 cpm. In this economy from what I understand from a couple of drivers who I spoke to this was bid on by 18 different companies, You guys dont realize that there are local drivers here in pittsburgh willing to drive for 11 an hour. I call it the Mcdonalds effect people will go to work every day and not make enough money to pay all of their bills. oh well like you said it would have probably cost me in the long run. Thank you all for the advice.
     
  9. Gears

    Gears Trucker Forum STAFF - Gone, But Not Forgotten.

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    Yep, you're MUCH better off not being tied to a contract like that. $1.35 per mile and you were a high bidder? That's nuts.
     
  10. tmlonghorns

    tmlonghorns Light Load Member

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    Not a driver but obviously love semis......even have a rig of my own that I haul my horses with.
    Anyway, I did the same math as above and the numbers are not there. As for some guys willing to take the job at $1.35/mile, I run into this in the manufacturing world all of the time. Guys get hungry enough, does not matter that they do for living, they are willing to take jobs on that just don't make sense in order to stay busy. Short term mentality that will, not if, but will catch up to them. It may be ok to take a load or two like this but to sign up for a year.......no way driver!
     
  11. supdty93

    supdty93 Light Load Member

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    It may be a steady gig, but how does it compare to running the load boards? A to B every day is nice but it also gets rag time after a while. You are really getting the professional vote on this, not including me, so I would seriously listen to the input. Good Luck to you whatever your call.
     
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