In 13 yrs of OTR, I have never experienced such rude and demeaning behavior, directed at truck drivers, as I have with John Christner Trucking. From the initial orientation, when the presenters were condescending, impatient, and disdainful to the tentative drivers, to the shop, to the driver managers, this place is the truck driver's enemy and should be avoided AT ALL COSTS!! I consider myself a mature, professional, and experienced driver, with a great safety record, as well as someone with a customer service background, with a lot of PR training. Yet, even with all the efforts I made to try and fit in and get along with the staff here, it proved in vain. I believe, if a person like me cannot coexist with these people, no one can!!! I am very laid back and easy going, however, when I have a complaint, or an issue that needs to be resolved, a company, worth it's oats, should help me to do so. It's one thing to say you have an "open door" policy. It's quite another to act as if you do. John Christner Trucking does not have this!! They treat drivers like children. They take your complaints as if they were winings from a cry baby. They have a good old boys club here, that only serves to support their own, circle the wagons, and protect each other to all extents of their power. If you have any complaints or issues that you are bothered with and would like to address them with your driver manager, or even go further up the ladder, they will pull out the, "well I have known this person for 22 yrs, and have never had a single complaint about him" card!! Names to remember, who will screw you any chance they get here: Keith Salley(DM Supervisor), Royce Sharpe(Personal Driver Liason to/from the Shop), Sheila Bane(LP Contracts), Jim Gomez(VP Operations), and Marty Means(Keith's Supervisor). In addition, as if that's not enough, their lease sucks!! For a truck I had, that they even agreed was appraised at $85, 000, after my lease would be up in 4.5 yrs, would have cost me $132, 000!!! Most drivers don't count up the annotated payments and total the cost out, but I did. Additionally, my truck, which their budget chart on their website bases itself as getting 6 mpg, for all the other figures to fall in line, only got 4.5-5.0 mpg, and that's with my averaging 60 mph. Thus, on a 3200 mi week, in which they promised a take home of $1225, after all expenses, I was lucky to get $700, and that's with my not withholding taxes for quarterly filing. Also, my truck, a 2007 International 9300, had ac failure within 2 wks of being issued to me, and last week had all my coolant leak out of a gigantic hole in the engine block!! They are consummate con artists!!!!
John Christner Rude to Drivers!!
Discussion in 'Report A BAD Trucking Company Here' started by moondoggie, Aug 3, 2010.
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Welcome to the world of lease purchase. Those numbers are always projected,and they dont guarantee anything, If your are only gett 4.5-5.0 mpg, Then there is a problem, I have a 2010 International and am getting a steady 6.0-7.0 mpg, hauling the same Tyson loads you do. I might suggest you lokk into an apu in the future after you get on your feet,the 179.00/month lease payment will pay ofr itslef within 2 weeks. I have done 2 lease purchases before with Dart Transit and made good money on both,Its all about watching cost per mile. Just a little advice from a fellow trucker.
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And this comes as a surprise to you? You been in the business long enough to know better than to put yourself in the "fleece" purchase game according to what you have listed 11 yrs? But they have "suckers" beating the door down daily just so they can become "O/O's" LOLOL. If the suckers would quit beating their door down then guess what their would be no jct or prime or england or any of the other fleece outfits.
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Another tale of woe from a lease purchase driver.If you can't afford a down payment and independent financing of your truck loan,you are not ready to be an owner operator.Plain and simple.
Don't finance a truck from the company that you get your freight from.Guitar Man, therobot and groundpounder Thank this. -
I am well aware of the pitfalls of lease purchase programs. However, not everyone has the opportunity to save a down payment(because they are too busy raising a family, paying bills, you know?), to put down on a truck. The key is to research the program offered by the company and check all the details. A lease purchase program can still be a good option, if everything checks out ok. I was not surprised, only trying to warn other drivers about this specific company. But, as usual, you get responses from drivers who think they know everything, and think all drivers have the same options as you do. Like I said, I was trying to convey the message that John Christner is a company that is extremely driver un-friendly. The additional part about the lease program was just to make that point clear. And, I've been driving OTR for 13 yrs, not 11. I am not a newbie in the trucking business. I am trying to warn other drivers!! Don't you get it?
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HERE'S YOUR SIGN! You may not be a newbie but just by signing a flease you prove to be no smarter then a newbie. If you want to be an owner operator you should be willing to make the sacrifices necessary to buy your own truck. Like P.T. Barnum said there is a sucker born every minute.
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I think it might be the "gigantic hole in the engine block"
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We joined JCT the first of January this year and are extremely happy with them. Only the women in the office positions are rude, obviously hired for their connections or connecting ability rather than ability to perform their jobs.
We made the necessary sacrifices to save and purchase our own truck which we signed onto JCT. We did sit through the same orientation though and the lease they are offering far surpasses the scam going on at Prime. But it was under that scam that we saved our money for the downpayment on our truck. So with the better program that JCT offers it
should be far easier to scrimp and save the money necessary to buy a truck of your own and sign it on.
I'm a firm believer that your success is measured by your effort.
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Well said...good qoute!
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Like I said earlier its all about watching the bottom line. Making sure your overhead at home is low enough to keep some money for the truck. I successfully completed 2 lease purchases and made money at it. granted fuel was under 2.00 per gallon back then, but you should still be making money off of surcharge if you are running your business right
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