I will be returning to OTR after being away for 4 decades. The last rig I drove had a Brownie transmission. After getting re-oriented to the business I will be buying a brand new rig.
I am a little old school but with a very open mind. Every dealer I speak with swears by the Eaton Ultra-Shift. What are some of your experiences with this unit? My major concern is with behavioir on steep downgrades and premature clutch plate wear. If I can avoid clutching and shifting, great! I don't mind paying the additonal price for good equipment as long as it works the way it's supposed to. However, I am not convinced yet.
There's no way to test drive this with a full load under real world conditions. So, any input would be greatly appreciated. I expect most of my runs to be west of the Mississippi with a lot of mountain driving.
Thanks,
JP
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Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by Jimmy P, Sep 18, 2010.
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hello there jimmy,all due respect i'm old school also ,and i'm sorry sir but they could'nt give me a ultrashift,i believe it's just my preference,but if i aint got at least 10 speeds to play with i aint happy
but to each their own if you have driven one and like it ,,,well it's your choice
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You couldn't give me a new truck either. Do your homework before buying, I mean talk to the driver's that are running these newer emission pieces of junk and not the dealers. Everything a dealer sells the dealer is going to tell you it is the best. I have a 07' Pete I will sell you and I am going to go and take piano lessons for my new job.
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Glad you brought up the subject of emissions. My first choice in new rig was a Pete, but I didn't like the way Paccar was handling the emissions issue. So, after doing quite a bit of research I decided on going with International. Their Exhaust Gas Recovery System makes more sense to me from an engineering stand point. It doesn't have some of the features that I would have liked but having to add Urea to the exhaust gas is just one more thing to have to do. It ain't for me.
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Regarding the shifting thing, more than a few drivers need to have the auto b/c their knee is not holding up. You may want to think about how long you will be driving this truck and how long your knee may be good for clutching. I have no first hand knowledge of this, but noticed from your post you're not young and are buying a new truck. The knee is what I always think of when the auto subject gets brought up.
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Farmall's solution to the emission nightmare is to use the same old system now discarded by every other manufacturer. Look at all the EGR problem post's and think about it. You may be next.
International is actually producing engines (with MAN's 13L engine) that only meet '07 emissions and they do that with 'credits'... a lot of BS if you ask me. Their CAT-based 15L engine is in short supply... they have only produced a few hundred as of today.
I wouldn't buy an Ultra Shift if you plan on keeping the truck past it's warranty as they still can be troublesome and costly to repair... and figure that the resale will probably be lower when you do trade...
If you want a good compromise buy a new '10 or '11 'glider kit' with a pre-'07 (or even pre-'03) emission engine. Now you have the best of everything... new truck with an old engine.heyns57 Thanks this. -
Ah.....Nobody except me "floats" gears anymore?
"Double-clutching" is not in my vocabulary....
Btw...to the OP....You drove a real truck (Brownie Tranny) back in the day
...These newbies probably don't know what "Two-Stickin'" is all about.....heyns57 Thanks this. -
Thanks.
I love this website, it's the best way to get real world info.
The fact is emissions regulations are here to stay and are bound to get tighter. Your point on EGR is well taken and I will research this a little more. I am still a few months away from placing my order.
I am not married to the idea of the Ultra-Shift and have even considered an Allison full auto but the price blew me away. If in the end I end up with a manual trans that will be just fine with me.
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There is a lot to be said for that "old technology". I remember as a kid when I first saw that double stick how intimidating it looked. Fact is, it was pretty simple, straightforward, precise and reliable. Of course it wasn't as clean looking as a modern range/splitter but it worked pretty much the same.
But, we either adapt or fade away. Now that I have entered the "geezer" phase of life I am learning as much as I can as fast as I can 'cause fading away ain't gonna happen.
See ya on the open road.
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Well this one old fart that will NOT be adapting to the new truck technology... I'm sticking with my '95 Pete until I can't drag my fat ### into the cab anymore...dino6960 Thanks this.
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