BREAKING NEWS: Senators introduce bill to require EOBRs

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  1. grimesjm1

    grimesjm1 Medium Load Member

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    I don't remember answering you with BLAH BLAH BLAH. Regardless, I didn't realize I needed to explain myself to you. I couldn't care less what you think about e-logs. Your opinion probably isn't too important to whether the law gets passed or not.

    You're either running your mouth because A. You need your hand held, and therefore the rest of us must, to, or B. You never learned how to mind your own business, and you get all tweaked when you see someone else not following the rules. Either way, not my problem.
     
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  3. CivilWerks

    CivilWerks Light Load Member

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    Do what you feel you have to do. But one day you may have someone smarter than the local DOT Badge Wearer looking at your records. And if they find you were illegal and you were involved in an injury or fatal accident, even through no fault of your own, you may wish that you weren't greedy and facing jail time instead of being able to return to that family you love so much that you work 90 hours in five days to provide for.
     
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  4. HEAVY DUDE

    HEAVY DUDE Road Train Member

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    You have been explaining yourself to me~why else would you respond using my quotes? I don't need anyone holding my hand any more than I need 18 hours a day to make a living. Perhaps learning to use a calculator will help you understand its about money. Not hours worked or miles ran.
     
  5. HEAVY DUDE

    HEAVY DUDE Road Train Member

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    Some drivers never think this far. Fooling a DOT logbook inspection is quite different than a DA who is trying to put you in jail.
     
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  6. grimesjm1

    grimesjm1 Medium Load Member

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    Rebutting what your saying, not explaining myself. Run this algebra through your calculator: If work equals money, what does more work equal?
    Everyone is assuming I haul cheap freight because i work hard. i don't. but that's irrelevant. The more time I drive and the less time I spend sitting with all the fatasses in the truckstops restaurant, the more i make.
    It's illegal to run over hours. I get it. It's wrong. I should go to prison for the rest of my life, ok, whatever. This thread was about eobr's. Even if I did run legal, I don't want someone watching over my shoulder. Do you? Where does it stop? Cameras following every move you make and automatically issue citations as you break the rules? I know you guys are perfect on here, you've made that very clear, but I'm not. At the end of the day the eobr means i would have to change how i run, so i chimed in against it.
    Im off this thread now, it's nothing but people arguing over whether you should run legal or not, i get it, you shouldn't, it's very very bad. You guys run legal and safe out there. Above all, legal!
     
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  7. Markk9

    Markk9 "On your mark"

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    If you need to drive beyond the legal hours, you are living beyond your means.

    If your choice to drive beyond the legal hours, you are just a common criminal that should be put in jail.

    Mark
     
  8. HEAVY DUDE

    HEAVY DUDE Road Train Member

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    You can do what you want its your decision. Read this on what can happen~Diesel Bear~ Most of the folks I work with have never heard of a DAC report. I don't play a game. It is no game when I'm at a fatal motor vehicle collision that involves a big truck, with a driver that has a comic book. It's no game when the driver is charged with manslaughter. It's no game when said driver goes to prison for a comic book. It's no game when the victim's family sues the driver, the carrier and the dispatcher for millions and I am sitting in a three day trial hearing how this collision has impacted so many people that could have been prevented. It's no game when the EOBR's will become mandatory. I'm not a fan of them, but I see the writing on the wall. The reason this push has gained momentum is because of things you speak of.

    I know the games dispatcher and carriers play, but at some point you as a man, have to make a decision. Do I do this or do I stand up and tell them no. Unfortunately when I have a driver on the side of the road that is in this position, you can not put the company or dispatcher out of service. They are not operating the CMV, the driver is. Ultimately the driver is responsible for his own actions, you can only pass the buck so far. I hope you don't take this as a bash on you, because it is not. There are driver's that do this for years and years, millions of miles with no collision. Then one day, no fault of their own they are riding and minding their own business. And something castrophic happens and now this driver is involved in a crash that he did not cause, he was in the wrong place at the wrong time. Now everything he has done in the last week or so is scrutinized like you can not imagine. The end loser is a driver that has violated the hours of service. Like some have posted, I have never seen a carrier or dispatcher put anything in writing to violate this or that as related to HOS. You never will. The carrier will back away from the driver and throw him under the bus and he will become part of collateral damage that the carrier will try to distance themselves from. So the driver is left to hang in the wind and fend for himself. Just please think of this scenario as it can happen. It has happended for a few that I have seen. They never thought it would happen to them, but it did. They didn't plan on having this wreck as they were multi million milers with clean safety records to only get caught up in a bad deal, that was no fault of their own.

    Again, please do not take this as a bash towards you because that is not my intentions. Good luck to you and remember everyone has decisions they have to live with.
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  9. HEAVY DUDE

    HEAVY DUDE Road Train Member

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    Two days ago I posted the above questions. Any answers?
     
  10. RenegadeTrucker

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    I am going to add something to this, there is more than one way to skin a cat. Sure you can sit there and run run run until you cant run any more, you can run 3 or 4 logs to try and make it all work, or maybe this, you dont haul for cheap, you dont run hard for cheap, if some one wants thier freight expadited then you write them a healthy bill for it.

    It never ceases to amaze me how many people will run so hard to go so broke. I know for myself if I get a load on the trailer that doesnt pay the best, I will sit there and try to find a partial to go with it, if I dont have enough trailer or weight left for a partial, I will drive a stead pace, and I will make plenty of stops to make calls to see if I can get something better.

    But I would rather bounce 500 miles to get to something good than run 1500 miles for cheap. And I have done it too. I have bounced from long beach to phoenix because there wasnt crap coming out of socal that was worth touching, I did it and never looked back.

    The last thing im going to do is get bent over a barrel by an angent, broker, dispatcher or shipper and work really hard for really cheap.

    To those who are whining about needing to run illegal every day you idiot "super truckers" are the ones who are ruining it for the rest of us.
     
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  11. lilillill

    lilillill Sarcasm... it's not just for breakfast

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    That's a load of Bull ####
     
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