Accident on i86 NY

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by Trouble65, Oct 8, 2010.

  1. Trouble65

    Trouble65 Medium Load Member

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    You can be charged for anything when it comes to the police.

    My driver explained to me that he caught up to the other truck quickly.

    At about 1000 feet or so he moved over to pass the truck. Two hundred feet away from the truck is when he spun out in front of him.

    So how can he be charged for following to close in this incident?

    I'm the one who called the police, my driver is the one who ran out to make sure other driver was fine. My driver put his triangles out so that nobody else gets hurt. And this is how the Police respond to us by threatning my driver.

    Next time I will tell my driver just keep going.


    Too many.
     
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  3. REDD

    REDD The Legend

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    I wasn't there. So I can't tell you what truely transpired. You weren't there, so you truely can't say what transpired. You can only go by the word of your driver.

    Did you know that driver's can & will lie to protect themselves? Not not saying that your driver is lying.... But if what he told you is truely what happened... and if he kept a positive attitude with the law enforcement... Then I don't see why he is being threatened.

    In today's industry... At least here in the United States attitude speaks wonders. If you got a crappy attitude, then the officer(s) will have one as well. If you remain positive, then tho officer(s) remain positive as well & attempt to look at things from the driver's point of view.

    Did you know that leaving the scene of an accident is illegal as well? It doesn't matter if he was involved. He witnessed it & has to give a report of what he saw transpire to a law enforcement officer.



    May I suggest educating, training, or replacing your driver's with competent individuals? Maybe your pushing them to hard? I don't know. But this is twice in one week that you have mentioned problems with law enforcement. If your issues continue, you will be out of business here in the United States not long after CSA 2010 is fully implemented.
     
  4. Trouble65

    Trouble65 Medium Load Member

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    My youngest driver has 6 years of experiance.

    I'm not saying they are perfect by any means. Everyone has a bad day.
    The more trucks you have the more problems.

    My oldest driver is 65 and just retired with 45 years of experiance. Last month he got pulled into scales for being 2000lbs overweight on drives.

    When he got back I asked him "What happened Old Man?" His response was "I don't know Dark". This is when he told me he will retire however will drive part time only.

    My equipment is in great shape and they never leave the yard with defects other then fridge does not work or my CB has static just the little things.

    Of all the vehicle inspections we had so far we have newer been placed out of service however there were minor warnings. There was a time when my driver left the truck stop in the winter drove 10 miles down the road and pulled into the scales he was told that he has a blown tire on the trailer and placed out of service until tire was replaced.

    Today I spent replacing 8 tires on 2 trailers, they had 50% life left in them however they were starting to develope spider cracks on the sidewalls. Most people would say they are fine you can get another 6 months or more out of them.

    I'm new in this industry. However I do the best I can to make sure my drivers are good at what they do and my equipment is safe.

    When I had only 1 truck and me driving I had problems however as the fleet grows it's a hole new ball game.
     
  5. REDD

    REDD The Legend

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    Are you out of the US or Canada? From your other thread I read, I gather your a Canadian carrier?

    Just from the two instances, I think your driver's are running to hard to make an extra dollar or two. I don't blame them. Maybe if you give em a nickel per mile raise & govern the trucks, they won't feel so rushed?

    I'm just trying to help come up with suggestions that may assist in helping you remain compliant & under the radar....
     
  6. Trouble65

    Trouble65 Medium Load Member

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    I'm from Canada.

    I don't push my drivers. They do get paid well. During the summer we do pepper loads to New Jersey. Total round trip is around 830miles and we pay them $550 that's $.66 per mile.

    If they want to work better for them, if not there is always the relief drivers that will drive their truck. If the relief drivers does more miles then the regular driver then the regular driver will loose his truck.

    All of our trucks are governed @65mph, government rules. However some drivers have found a way to speed and that's by running my trucks in a lower gear which by passes the governed speed limit. Having said that that driver is no longer with us.



    Any sensible advice or comments is always appreciated.
     
  7. getoverit

    getoverit Light Load Member

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    Following too close should not stand up in court in this case, Video ? Eye Witness ? He did not colide with the other vehichle. And of course a passing vehichle changing lanes.
     
  8. FLATBED

    FLATBED Road Train Member

    In NEW YORK STATE you have a some what GESTAPO police force ( State Troopers ) that HATE trucks , Truckers and Canadians so just abide by the rules / laws and you will do OK , if not you will be constantly in problems.

    Lot of Canadian companies from Ontario run the Ontario / Eastern Seaboard routes and never have a problem ( they have been at it for years ) yet new startups try and buck the system.
     
  9. bill122250

    bill122250 Medium Load Member

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    where was this accident. I know I87 and I88 but am unfamiliar with I86. I travel I87 every day and see a lot of trucks over the bank on their side.
     
  10. REDD

    REDD The Legend

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    I-86 runs from near Erie, PA to Binghamton, NY.

    It is the old NY-17 corridor
     
  11. Rocky64

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    Could the driver, that went to jail, have made a statement that sounded like this... "that truck behind me was coming up on me so fast that I had to swerve out of shear reflex to avoid getting hit in the rear"

    a statement similar to that would have the implications to the officer that your driver was following to close

    now, a statement like that wont get the jailed driver out of trouble, but, was the best he could come up with, possibly.

    my imagination ^^^^ but a possibility the actual events and/or story given.
     
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