why cant i downshift my 18 speed without grinding

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by kw18, Oct 17, 2010.

  1. kw18

    kw18 Bobtail Member

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    i just bought a 89 kw w900 with a 18speed trans. im just learning everything and have not had anyone to teach me how to drive i have drove several 9 speed trucks before in the past and didnt have no problem shifting but ive met my match with the 18 speed im having problems downshifting bc i can not find the right rpm range. everyone keeps telling me to keep the rpms up. when i keep them up and try to downshift and raise the rpms even higher it will not even try to go into gear if i bog the motor at about 900 to 1000 rpms sometimes it will go in just fine but most of time it will scrape but still go in. the people that are telling me to keep the rpms up have been driving for years but my truck will NOT downshift at higher rpms can someone help me? i have a learners permit and have to get the shifting down pat before i can take the road test i am also runing bobtail in this truck right now, the 9 speeds that i drove i had empty trailers behind them, does it have something to do with the weight differance? can someone tell me what i am doing wrong or give me some tips on shifting. thanks for any help.
     
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  3. Allow Me.

    Allow Me. Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    Yeah, shifting while bobtailing VS under a trailer are a little different. For one, try shifting WITHOUT splitting any gears, as in a 9 speed. Just shift from 2-3-4-5 etc. on the direct side, all the way through the pattern.
     
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    cant_wait_2_retire Bobtail Member

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  5. Allow Me.

    Allow Me. Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    Come on now, don't be intimidated by a mechanical device (transmission). You can do it !
     
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  6. kw18

    kw18 Bobtail Member

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    can you give me a idea wear my rpm's need to be to make a good down shift?
     
  7. end of the road

    end of the road Heavy Load Member

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    Does not matter so much at what the rpm's are, but rather the difference in one gear to another.

    Try 400 per shift or 800 to drop 2 gears. Easier to drop 2 at a time bob tailer. Forget the splitter altogether.
     
  8. mysticguido

    mysticguido Light Load Member

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    everyone is saying don't use the splitter, So just using it to Up shift is OK then right. But don't use it to down shift. Do I have that right?
     
  9. kajidono

    kajidono Road Train Member

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    You're only going to need that splitter when you're loaded as heavy as you can get and even then you'll only need it pulling uphill. Even with a 10 speed you only need every other gear bobtail. Just pay attention to where the rpm are when you shift up. It's going to be pretty close shifting down.

    If you still have problems, go rent a ten speed day cab and take the test in that. No reason to make it harder than it needs to be.
     
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  10. kw18

    kw18 Bobtail Member

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    i have the upshifting down pat with or without the splitter and can even shift without the clutch and its just the second time i have drove it but downshifting is a different story i think if i could do it one time i would get it from their but i also have another question when you use the splitter and go from direct to overdrive can you just pull the spitter back and push the clutch in and go back into direct or do you have to pull the spitter back and also downshift with the shifter in order to get back in the direct gears thanks to everyone for the help.
     
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