Super Singles

They suck, they suck, they suck!!! I'm not sure how many time's this question has been asked about them but I know there's a few and in one post I explained every con, and did not see any pro's.

 

Marginally more expensive?
You need a better calculator because I bought 8-DR444 24.5 16ply BFGoodrich drives at $335.41 each and also bought 4 Michelin X-One XDN2 for $872.68 each.

So each position costs $201.86 MORE than duals not including tax.
Also who cares what the trailer mfg says about limping with a flat tire? Seriously, do you have any idea the price difference of buying a tire and having it installed on the side of the hwy vs at a tire shop? I'm beginning to believe your a company driver who has no idea what things cost. Believe me an owner operator knows the difference.


The trucks/trailers we have with them work well because of their application. But I will not put them on the rest because they haul heavy (only 120,000 so no where near as heavy as your reefer loads) and would see no benefit.

 

I've bought two sets of Michelin X-1's for my tractor, both of which were slightly less than three grand after all the various costs and credits were accounted for. That you bought a set of eight duals for, lets see, $2,683.28 before mounting is what I consider to be marginal. Your mileage may vary.

I post my settlement data for all to see. Do the same and blow us all away with your business acumen.

Good luck,

Jim

 

I just got a new truck and its got super singles on it, I can't stand them!

#1 Smaller Foot Print then duals= Less Traction and less Braking power
#2 WIDE tires float on top of snow=no traction
#3 WIDE tires spread the weight out so much there 0 traction on ICE
#4 They DO NOT fit into the Dual grooves on the Highway so you get jerked around allot while driving
#5 when they blow out you have to stop theres NO limping to a shop
#6 when they blow out your gonna be waiting a while until they find a tire for you


I've only had these things for a couple of weeks and I've gotten stuck I don't know how many times in places I've been before with duals with no problems.






American Trucker

 

Not only waiting to find a tire and have a truck bring it to the location to change it but a rim as well because most of the time when I see them blown out the rim is FUBAR from riding the pavement until the truck is stopped. Another down side when one blows out there's alot more rubber that will go flying than a single leading to more damage.

 

That would be an ABS problem and has NOTHING to do with tires.

 

Company truck has them but as the driver they don't seem any better or worse to me.

 

Exactly. We had a driver on my account blow one on I95 in Georgia and when it popped, it blew the aluminum plate right off the trailer above the tire (these are double drop flatbeds) and it managed to set the tarp on fire.

 

Yea, I saw another issue my last time out in Wyoming with a May Inc. truck on I-80. Blew one on the right side of the trailer and that one in conjunction blew the second on the tandems and rolled the truck. Oh HELL NO I'll never ride on those. I made another post somewhere stating that about super singles and then thinking that mexico just opened a new re-tread plant this year. Do you reall yfeel safe riding on those over priced POS'?

 

I never had any experience with them and I know I dont want to. I think its just a stupid fad which will blow over. I played on the streets in the warm months as a teen and in the mud and the hills the rest of the year as did most of us. The fundamentals of wide tires in different applications has been proven and utilized for many decades.

When racing on dry clean asphalt you want wide slicks, starts to get wet you want wide slicks with grooves cut just right to pump the water away from the center to the outside and prevent hydroplaning. When on the mud you want wide tires with big lugs to hydroplane on top and still bite to keep momentum so you dont sink and have to get pulled out. Almost same with deep snow but a little tricker, not really something to be played with. When on ice or slick you want skinny to get as little surface area as possible to dig in and bit as hard as possible, during the winter most who drove our trucks around changed from TSL'S to wildcats Yokohamas whatever.

These wide tires are going to hydroplane like a muther $%^$ if they are not cut right and unless there is ample depth to channel all the water to the outside. On the ice and snow they are sleds. In the mud with no lugs they are sleds. They probably perform great if you stay close to the equator. But the extra service needs of trucks and trailers have to outweigh the benefits. Even company drivers dont want to stop there rig when on a tight run and somewhat close or far from a service station. What a pain. So much better to be able to run a flat to the nearest service station. Having to get a service truck out to your truck where ever you are on the spot where you loose pressure is ridicules. What if you are on a little state or county highway a hundred plus miles from nowhere. Maby you run over a small nail whatever it happens, a flat is a flat. What if you are in NY, Chicago, LA ets. rush hour middle of the thick and one blows. The concept seems so impractical. In construction especially log homes there is as drawn prints and as built prints. A lot of the educated engineers who have never even peeked into the field of application draw up all these brilliant ideas which may seem great by the numbers on the computer but that have zero feasibility in application, and may not even be feasibil in construction. Putting slicks on semi trucks just seems kinda bugus, but could be wrong.