Over hours question...

When you can figure out how to make common sense mandatory, you have a valid arguement. This has been discussed before~nobody including you can come up a valid plan to allow only those with common sense to drive untill they feel like its time to sleep. I've figured out how to make a living within the rules~you continue to whine without realizing nobody cares.

 

I didn't propose a plan because there shouldn't be one. Whatever happened to responsibility and personal accountability? I guess you prefer to let others make your decisions for you.

This isn't about making a living, this is about living freely. This isn't about safety for them (although you clearly bought the lie), this is about control and revenue generation.

You still haven't told me how hos rules saved the 11 people from blacks emotional appeal.

 

Boardhauler, that tongue-in-cheek was hilarious. I get a giggle each time I read it. Unfortunately, though, not everyone got the joke. I did.

Anyway, I always say legal does not equal safe. If it did, I would not have had that close call at 0300 this morning when I caught myself almost doze off. Why was I on the road? Because I was legal and had to get the load run. Common sense would have had me running during hours I'm normally awake and alert. But guv'mint interference via the 14-hour rule forced me into a serious case of jet lag that could have ended disastrously. I pulled off the road for a brief catnap and a brisk 9-degree walk.

It is absolutely true you cannot legislate common sense. Unfortunately, there are a bunch of Nine-to-Fivers writing the rules who have no idea the hoops we have to jump through to try to maintain some semblance of a Circadian Rhythm with this 14-hour rule. And with this new thing being discussed requiring a break halfway through the day, the hours thing will become even more restrictive. We have our Citizens' "Safety" groups and LTL Teamsters leadership to thank for that. We just have to do the best we can with what we're given until someone with some real sense gets in there who will actually take the time to listen to us.

BW9's friend is an example of why we should try to run as close to legal as possible. Had his book been non-fiction rather than fantasy, he might be free today ...flipping burgers at McDonald's, but able to be with family and friends. Instead, he's sitting inside a cage with real animals who will eat the weak among them. The log book might not have saved those lives, but it might have kept that man out of prison. And I found it to be an excellent illustration.

 

Ditto, I love my naps lol. I go out and come right back home. I am generally out for only 8 days at a time, and then take off for about 2 to 4 days. Sometimes I stretch the truth a little bit, but ive had a two hour nap, a shower, and a sit down meal during the day too. So if I back it up, oh freaking well... I can only sleep about 6 hours at a stretch, so I usually end up screwing around with the truck, or just waiting till my logbook says I can leave. I couldn't tell ya the last time I counted my 70.

If that makes me a criminal, so be it. Id rather be me than just another sheep in the herd any day...

 

You know what else would have kept him out of prison? Not being an idiot. Why is there sympathy for the man? He ruined many lives with the choices he made. The logbook has absolutely nothing to do with it.

On a side note, I thought boardhauler was kidding at first about following laws but his prior post made me think he was serious. Even if he wasn't, there are those out there that do feel that way.

 

I didn't think you would/could. I believe in personal responsibility also, however I see the caliber of drivers on the road and know what you preach ain't so. I'll follow the law~you can do as you wish.

 

A few weeks ago I could have made the yard on my 16 on a Friday night. But I pulled over & slept for almost 9 hours & then drove the last hour to get in on Sat. morning.

I know that was illegal, but I have a hard time convincing myself that it was wrong.

 

Why is it illegal? Sounds like half of a sleeper split to me.

Oh. Duh. I missed the 16 part. *sheepish grin*

 

Hi, Trckdrvr,

I would like to research cases where truckers have been imprisoned or have been sued for "being in the wrong place at the wrong time," but I don't know where to begin.

I'm talking about the falsification of logbooks, either minor or major, where a trucker was involved in an accident initiated by the actions of another motorist, but where the trucker was charged because he, or she, "shouldn't have been there."

I'm not asking you to spend the next 2 hours, but I am interested in the statistics that you mentioned. Where can I find them?




thanks...

...stonefly

 

The temptation to cheat is human. We all want what works best for us.
I'd be lying if I said, I never juiced the books in the past.
After several close calls with the DOT, I've come to a personal decision.
My driver license comes first. If it will put my license in jeapody, there would have to be an emergency or tremendous financial gain involved.
Simple...Log it like you drive it, or risk the consequenses.