How to scale a heavy truck

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by Southpaw7391, Jan 1, 2011.

  1. orion3814

    orion3814 Medium Load Member

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    like a flat bed with product hanging over the back 10 feet or over the front more than x amount of feet from the center of the kingpin... has nothing to do with bridge... just with teh amount that hangs out passed the ends of the trailer not the sides....
     
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  3. otherhalftw

    otherhalftw R.I.P.

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    I'll admit...I don't know much of anything about the rules and regs or laws to commercial vehicles in Canada...but (refer to highlighted above)...this poster is referring to trailer tail and tandem position. Perhaps the term "overhang" is what is throwing me, I have always watched and been aware of "tail swing", an issue with the rear of the trailer and the forward most position setting of the tandems.

    There are some trailers that the tandem rails can come to almost the center position of the trailer, I have seen these but never pulled them...with the tandems so far forward, in a restricted area turn (tight turn) with obstacles in close proximity, the tail end could swing beyond the tracking difference causing the trailer to come in contact with these obstacles. But I have never heard of any rules or regulations or laws with regard to this situation.

    Again I ask...can anyone explain this or direct me to the rule or regulation that specifically covers this?
     
  4. Prairie Boy

    Prairie Boy Road Train Member

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    We have a lot of Boom trucks (pickers) that pull flatbeds with the wheels that slide to near the center, that's because these tri drives weigh so much that you can only put a few pounds on the drives and the rest has to be on the trailer.

    To give you an idea of rear overhang, Alberta allows 20 feet from the center of axles on a tandem or the center of the center axle on a tridem. British Columbia has the same rule at the front but allow 20 inches more over the back than Alberta does.
     
  5. otherhalftw

    otherhalftw R.I.P.

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    OK...I can accept that easily...but the post in question, the poster refers to "these states" and also refers to US....or am I reading into the post?

    Reread the post and see if you see what I am seeing.

    thanks!
     
  6. Prairie Boy

    Prairie Boy Road Train Member

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    You're reading it properly, I just ised examples as I'm sure the regualtions vary from state to state. A person would have to go to these states on line to the permit section for the regulations.
     
  7. Injun

    Injun Road Train Member

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    OHTW: Maryland has an "overhang" law. The rear of your trailer behind your tandems is not allowed to be more than 30% of total trailer length...I believe that's the percentage. It equals out to about 18' for a 53' trailer. You can move your tandems as far forward as you want as long as there is less than about 18' behind the rear axle. It's the only state I know of that has that. Apparently, people were sliding their tandems all the way forward and forgetting about pivot swing.
     
    otherhalftw Thanks this.
  8. otherhalftw

    otherhalftw R.I.P.

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    Thanks Injun...now I can sleep!LOL:biggrin_25514:

    Now, kindly go to the "14 hour rule" thread and clean that one up!

    thanks again!
     
  9. Southpaw7391

    Southpaw7391 Light Load Member

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    Thanks everyone, now i have a good idea how to deal with this truck
    I took the advice, ran it over to the fuel island, put 500.00 in fuel (max per day allowance) gave it 3\4 tanks, with all my stuff and I the truck with a 53 foot dry van weighed in at.... 35,560 like I said, #### truck is heavy... lol

    All should be ok, only once have i had a load over 45 k

    So as long as my loads don't exceed 44 k ..

    I picked up a load yesterday, scaled it out, came to 78,4 i moved the tandems so that the 48' marker was right over the rear tire, and came out perfect 12,2 on the steers 33,4 on the drives and 32,4 on the trailer..
    I figured the 200 pounds in fuel would burn off before the nearest weigh station, another question... Where does the 500 lbs grace weight for the tri-pac go into play, on the steers or the drives....

    Oh and to the poster about the layout of a "Freight-Shaker"
    (which is a crazy term, this makes the 4th Freightliner I have driven and not one has shaken has much as a Volvo..). lol

    On the Cornodo, the fuel tanks are 150 a piece and are under the bunk...

    Be safe...
     
  10. 123456

    123456 Road Train Member

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    Man,

    that IS a heavy rig.

    Good Luck !!
     
  11. rambler

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    Boy that thing is heavy. It seems the weight would hurt big company fleet sales somewhat in favor of model/makes that weigh in a little lighter.
     
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