I have read every post in 33 pages here, its wonderful to see so many were willing to help out, dont see to much of that now days..
Injun, you are amazing.. You made that call and it helped him out a lot...
I hope that everything works out for the best and that the next 4 weeks fly by for you. Best of luck to you..
No food! No water or bathroom and expected to stay in truck
Discussion in 'Swift' started by bluebonn, Jan 16, 2011.
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do not compare "apples to oranges"....in this case, truck drivers and pilots.....get MORE experience AS A DRIVER, and see how the real world is in trucking......throw out all you know about flying, those rules DO NOT apply here. a driver "can do" a pre-trip "on paper" by showing a 15 minute time frame on line 4.....as we all know, anything mechanical CAN break down at ANY time.......so even a thourgho pre-trip done a short time ago will,NOT guarantee no problems done the road, satisfy the idiot o/o by "pre-tripping on paper" and move on.....when you get YOUR OWN TRUCK...?? pre-trip your little heart out......######, the o/o did not even care he was low on oil.....this wreaks of an o/o that DOES NOT CARE as he is probably about to go bankrupt and just turn in the truck back to Swift....DO NOT AGGRAVATE the situation.....Last edited: Jan 19, 2011
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once i get assigned a truck, i do as a complete pre trip as possible and make note of any damages to the tractor....after that, my "pre-trips" would usually consist of, having the 4 ways flashing, checking under the hood, kicking the tires, and i'm down the road...oil good, tires good, lights good........GONE.......
as an instructor, i MUST teach the proper way to pre-trip, but as i also always say to my students, "there will be times, you will not be doing a proper pre trip, i just can't tell you when those times are, you'll figure it out yourself's"....
hell, there ARE LOT'S OF THINGS we HAVE to teach them properly......but i also tell them, "in the real world"..........
i'm waiting to hear from the newbies how much they "skip over" in about 1 to 3 years from now......i suspect nearly 100% will do a whole lotta skipping........you just ain't got the 1 hour or so to do a FULL and proper pre-trip......that would eat up too much time you WILL NEED somewhere's down the road......
as for the o/p, as i say, "do not aggravate the o/o"......as for the pilot we got here chiming in, DO NOT COMPARE a pilots responsibilities to a trucker's responsibilities.....this IS a TRUCKING website, not a PILOTS website......DO NOT COMPARE APPLES TO ORANGES....... -
Why not just do an "HONEST" survey of how many do pre & post. I KNOW everyone says they do em,but when I am on the road,I do watch, (bored I guess) and very rarely see it done..
By the way,I DO,cause there probably isn"t anyone reading this who hates breakin down on the road more n me
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DVIR ? You can tell when something needs checking just by walking down the left and back up the right during a fuel stop. Pop the hood, wash the windows, Done.,
CYA. Scale house inspections are flagged by lights,tires and overweigh axles.
It's not funny a trainee noticed a seasoned pro failing to do even a walk around.strat57 Thanks this. -
Very true here! Running a load into Texas across I-20 years ago. Made a pit stop at a truck stop, checked tires (hauling haz-mat) and checked other things, then hit the road. Half an hour later, trailer tire blew, and it was a fairly new tire, pressure had been good, no defects visible. I always took my inspections seriously, and even more so when I did have haz-mat.The Challenger Thanks this.
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Wiley... I am ashamed of you!!! How dare you compare a Profession in which you are Licensed to operate a Vehicle that you are responsible for the Safety and Condition of said vehicle to another Profession in which you are Licensed to operate a Vehicle that you are responsible for the Safety and Condition of said vehicle. Furthermore, the nerve of you to suggest that there is any room whatsoever for Professionalism in the world of SuperTruckers is absolutely appalling to all those who have spent years and countless hours bringing the reputation of Truck Drivers down to the level it is currently at. In the immortal words of the lovely Ms. Mallory Knox, "Bad, bad, bad, bad, bad, bad, bad..."
As to the suggestion "DO NOT AGGRAVATE the situation", I say F-that!!! You are directly suggesting that the OP and all those reading lay back and take the bullying offered by Mentors and risk "everything" just so as not to cause waves. That is some of the worst advice I have ever heard... EVER!!! The condition of the truck isn't the students problem in the long term but while "piloting" that vehicle the student is legally and financially responsible for the condition of said vehicle. If one's Mentor is operating a vehicle that is unsafe or in a bad state of repair I would suggest that the student not drive the truck, contact Driver Services, and if need be find a new Mentor.LTLBGTRK, The Challenger, WileyHunter and 2 others Thank this. -
It is not about who does and who doesn't do 1,000,000 point pre-trips and when. The O/P brought up the fact that not only does his Mentor not do any kind of pre-trip but actually has told his student, the O/P, not to do a pre-trip either. I was trying to inform the O/P of the risks associated with this God-Awful advice from the Mentor and suggest ways to protect himself from said horrendous advice and to actually "Do His Job". Kinda like the whole "Trailer Sweeping" thing, just because others choose to be lazy doesn't mean that I'm going to be. I don't care what the "Cool Kids" are doing, I am going to do what is best for me and my family.
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Common sense is all any one needs to to anything adequately....some are a little short on that or are just idiots. Whether it be sweeping or pre-tripping or dealing with a mentor...or a DM...or a shipper...or a consignee...or ur old lady...err....ur kids....no one follows any set of rules entirely, most rules like learning to pre-trip are guide lines and once you know what the things to look for are then you should be capable of determining when something is amiss. On the subject of the o/p getting off the mentors truck at this point...is kind of like divorcing your mate after your first arguement...sometimes it is best to just get back up on that horsey that threw you off and learn to ride the dang thing....know what i mean?.....ain't no cryin in truckin......just sayin'
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you seem to fail to recognize the mentor or trainer has the students fate and future in their hands. it absolutely DOES NOT take much to piss off a trainer and have him go to the company and say "so and so sucks as a driver, get rid of him"....
so my advice stands, DO NOT aggravate the trainer/mentor.....do the job to the best of your ability,and if the trainers DOES NOT want the student to do a particular function, then by golly just comply with the trainer and move on.....
i guess you forget how trainers can make or break a student in a heart beat......then the student HAS to TRY AND FIND another job after being fired......how many stories have you read about this...??? right here on this website, i have read quite a few.....
according to your BIO, you have less than a years worth of experience.....come back in about 5 years when you know a bit more on how trainees' futures rests in the palms of the hands of the trainers......
buh-bye.....
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