help cat gods

Discussion in 'Trucks [ Eighteen Wheelers ]' started by kgktm, Feb 5, 2011.

  1. kaliga1961

    kaliga1961 Bobtail Member

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    help cat mechanic,I have a 2009 c-15 550 in a westernstar has 63000 miles under a long pull it starts skipping like its runing out of fuel , it doesn't do it all the time,no check engine light,and on a same long pull when it's regenerating it pull's fine, we have taken it to cat did injector test, fuel pressure test, all ok, they say they can't do any more till it throws a light, any help,thanks.
     
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  3. Mr. Haney

    Mr. Haney Road Train Member

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    The wires being untwisted shouldn't effect it. I thought you stated that you'd replaced the wiring harness between the ECM and valve cover spacer and the wiring harness under the valve covers for the injectors and jake brakes.
     
  4. Mr. Haney

    Mr. Haney Road Train Member

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    You're almost loose on the backlash. It's supposed to be .0085 with a plus or minus tolerance of .0045 The max is .013 and the least amount is .0040. This is very important to remember when doing backlash on the cam gear...........you always rotate the engine in the same direction as it would be when running...........pin it on number one........if you miss the pin...........neverreverse the engine rotation to insert the pin. This increases the backlash by allowing the lower gears to be come involved in your measurements. If you pin the engine properly.........you've taken the lower gears out of the measurement, because you have tension on them from rotating the engine and camshaft in the proper direction. As soon as you move backwards in engine rotation..............you've screwed up


    The 0022-11 code will not cause the engine to missfire or drop power as you've discribed. When the engine dies suddenly under full power and your laptop is showing the fuel rate going to zero.........the fuel will not be dumped from the fuel galley into the return. When the ECM takes fuel away from the injector the fuel is dumped from the injector body into the fuel rail/galley in the head.........the fuel pressure is controlled by the check valve in the filter base. The ECM has no control over fuel pressure in the fuel rail/galley.........the reason you're seeing a quick spike in pressure is the ECM decided that fuel wasn't going to be fired by the injector into the cylinders........so no fuel volume is lost in the fuel galley and pressure goes up. Under full load the ECM is telling the injectors to use fuel so pressure goes down under a full load...........take the load away and the engine is still at higher RPM .......the fuel pump is still moving a large volume of fuel and the pressure rises until the pressure drops below the check valves closing point. The fuel delivery and return on these engines is completely mechanical.
     
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  5. kgktm

    kgktm Bobtail Member

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    Finally solved the the problem with the egine loosing power on a long pull.2 injectors finally quit and caused a miss even at idle.Replaced them and all the others o rings.Most of the the bottom o rings were gone and the middle ones were broken.Can't believe the engine ran as good as it did just causing that intermitten power loss.Still getting the 22-11 but the engine runs fine.Owner needs to make some money so he needed the truck.Told me hes going to save up for rebuild for me.Mr Haney and everyone else thanks for all the the help the knowledge you guys have is priceless.
     
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