I need HELP with my 99 FRUEHAUF TL XX

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by Vlad the Macedonian, Feb 27, 2011.

  1. Vlad the Macedonian

    Vlad the Macedonian Bobtail Member

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    3 weeks ago, I became a " proud " owner of a 99 FRUEHAUF TL XX 53 ft dry van. I have this problem, that the trailer dumps (loose) 100% of the air from the airbags anytime I activate the trailer spring ( parking) brake ( pull the red knob). The back of the trailer gets so low that some forklifts can't climb back. It irritates me even more cose 2 different mechanics told me that its ok, that this tipe of trailers are built this way.
    It doesn't sound right to me, I look at other air ride trailers and they don't lose air even when disconnected with hours from their tractors.
    PLS, if anyone have some experience , knows something about this or similar tipe of trailers, have some tips ,PLS, help me , write me, cose this status quo drives me crazy.
     
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  3. ‘Olhand

    ‘Olhand Cantankerous Crusty

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    The mechanics are right--there are a couple of types of air suspensions that are set up(ie:wired) to dump when the parking brake is activated--I personally do not like them--but then again I do not swap trailers--I have mostly seen them on large fleet trailers--and I always figured it was to insure the air was dumped when trailer was dropped.
    Having said all this--(although I have never personally been underneath to look!) most remote air dumps(in cab etc) are electronically controlled(versus--dump valve on trailer itself) therefore it seems to me, a qualified mechanic who understands how that particular system is wired to the trailer brake--should be able to re-wire your system so it does not dump when the brakes are applied. But I would strongly advise you to find someone highly qualified and trustworthy!
    As for loading and unloading--there really is no need to lock your trailer brakes--as long as you are hooked up--frankly if you spend a lot of time in cold temps in winter months--you'll find it a pretty good practice not to.
    Just my $.02
     
  4. Vlad the Macedonian

    Vlad the Macedonian Bobtail Member

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    Once , I didn't set the trailer brakes, just the tractor brakes were set,and then at the very last skid, the truck moved, the ramp fell down (god got involved somehow ) and the forklift stayed stacked with the last skid and didn't went down, which would probably kill or hurt the forklift operator very bad.
    Now, I set all brakes, and sometimes , if forklift operator is a wild one (the one that think he is a racing driver), I even put the landing gear down.
     

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  5. crop jocky

    crop jocky Light Load Member

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    Wheel Chocks? would that hold it
     
  6. stranger

    stranger Road Train Member

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    The trailer is operating as designed. Some trailers have small legs that drop down between the axle and frame when the air is dumped, some don't. You can probably have the dump valve bypassed to eliminate this.
     
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  7. Jfaulk99

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    There's nothing wrong with the trailer. Someone either ordered it with the auto dump valve or added it later. It's designed so if a trailer is dropped loaded, the suspension won't deflate and cause the trailer to walk forward and put pressure on the dollys. It's either the leveling valve itself, or a pilot valve. If it's the leveling valve you just need to replace it with one without a dump (~$50), or remove the pilot valve if it has one.
     
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    A tandem trailer will have 4 spring brakes if they are all working right, most tractors only have 2 and those may be working right or not, it depends on the wear of the brakes and if the slack is properly adjusted
     
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  9. Vlad the Macedonian

    Vlad the Macedonian Bobtail Member

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    They do help,but I don't have them,and these place didn't have them also.From that day,I'm very carefyll, and if some forklift operator drives like crazy and shake the trailer more then usual,or if the pavement is icy, I'l put the landing gear down,turn the engine off and put it in the gear + keep the tractor breaks activated.
     
  10. mitchtazz

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    i dont see how the dumping of the suspension with the activation of the trailer parking brake will be controlled electrically.. there's nothing electrical about the parking brakes. they dont illuminate any lights or anything it's all pneumatic, so if anything, it has to do with a valve or valves on your suspension like Jfaulk99 said.

    should be a pretty easy find.. just have some one activate the trailer parking brake while you're under there and find the dump valve and start tracing air lines.. my dump valve was hidden in the "C" channel of a cross member and after two weeks of looking i finally got my wife to flip the switch in the cab while i was underneath and found it.
     
  11. Vlad the Macedonian

    Vlad the Macedonian Bobtail Member

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    Its not electrically. The problem is when the trailer dumps the air, it gets lower then the loading dock and forklifts can't climb back. If I don't activate the trailer spring brake, then the trailer is on normal level, and only truck parking brake holds it not to move.
    I was just wondering is this air dumping thing normal, or is the trailer air system not working properly. I would like to have air in the trailer airbags while trailer spring brakes are on when I get loaded / unloaded.
     
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