Truck driving schools are like slot machines for companies (SCAM!)

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by Hoobilly, Mar 19, 2011.

  1. bbqguy

    bbqguy Light Load Member

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    Bwwahahahahahaha..... That's it? That's your "proof"? Really? Then I guess everything you see and hear on TV infomercials is true as well. The fact that you think you can condemn trucking schools, in toto, as a 'consumer ripoff' with such proof smacks of a lazy intellect unable to engage in critical thinking skills, OR.... you are a troll. Let's just pretend that you are the former and not the latter, just for a sec, m'kay?

    How do you explain the fact that many, many, many, many times more people successfully pay their tuition (each with funding from their own individual source) and then graduate from trucking schools to become gainfully employed, then are those who write in to the "I've been ripped-off" crybaby websites?

    A few trucking schools ARE a consumer fraud. Most aren't. Mine certainly wasn't. I took some of my retirement savings, $2800.00, money which was earned by my saving a part of my salary from working, and paid tuition at a community college in order to attend their commercial truck driving program.

    The funny thing was, a few of my fellow students (we started with 15) were terminated from the program for drug use after random drug screens. That left us with 9 students. Of that 9, three left the program because the state would not pay their tuition due to the fact that the state had already paid their tuition to attend other vocational programs. Those 'students' were hoping for another free ride.

    Now we are down to six of the original 15 students. Out of that 6, only three of us were paying for our own tuition, the state or feds were paying for the other three. Guess how many of us went out after graduation, got driving jobs, and are now driving? That's right, the three of us who paid our own way.

    So you see, your whining is an all too familiar buzz. It smacks of an entitlement mindset which looks to someone else to pay the freight. Heck, just like those who completed the program with taxpayer dollars, you don't even know if you want to really drive a truck. Well, Bubba, I don't want my tax dollars going to your 'free' education. Put up your own grubstake and throw away your own hard-earned money when you decide that "trucking might not be for you". Save up money and pay for the tuition yourself, or go to a trucking company's school with a performance contract in exchange for the trucking company footing the bill. Take out a loan. Use a credit card. Whatever......but fund the education yourself.

    In light of today's realities, your argument that "I think I should be able to be able to get my license on my own and do my own thing" is indicative of an immature and self-serving mindset that is not prepared to take on the massive responsibilities of driving a commercial truck. The fact that you think you should be allowed to drive an extremely large and powerful 80,000 pound vehicle on public highways and byways, based on what YOU believe to be an adequate skill-set is laughably sad. It's as laughable as hearing someone say that they should be allowed to operate a nuclear reactor because they have spent time reading about them in a set of Encyclopedia Britannica's.

    Book knowledge and testing at the DMV does not prove you would have what it takes to be a good driver. The DMV only ascertains that you have the minimum skills needed to keep a vehicle on the road. What the DMV can't test for is how you translate that minimal skill-set into real-world practice. This means that for all intents and purposes, your way would put a lot of people, not to mention equipment and cargo, into harm's way. You question why insurance companies and the federal government and state governments should have a say into who and under what method a person should be entitled to drive a commercial tractor-trailer? One single word, Bubba: jeopardy.

    To all: I realize that a number of folks have used various public funding methods to attend school, have realized the gift that they had been given, and have then made good on that gift by becoming gainfully employed and hard workers. Hopefully, you understand that my intent of the above, as it applies to the OP, is not meant as a generalization of all who use those programs.
     
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  3. Hoobilly

    Hoobilly Bobtail Member

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    Well I just want to say thanks for sharing your experience. You have a lot of good points there and really made me think.

    However my individual situation is little different. I'm 29 and I don't have good credit to finance the 7,500 # 18% it would take to put me through my local school. You stated that you took some of your retirement money, so you had the money to spend, I don't.

    Why am I doing this? It's because I want to work and drive a truck, but I don't believe in spending money I don't have and sign a contract that may or may not work out to some company that is just going to take advantage of me anyway.

    So I really don't have any options, accept for continuing to reply to everyone on this thread that calls me a troll.
     
  4. rich_t

    rich_t Road Train Member

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    The OP is just jerking your chains guys.

    It's pretty obvious at this point.

    There... I said it again.
     
  5. ronin

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    Seriously, and I hate the idea myself, but it is one I'd recommend to a beginner - take the tests and get your permit - start with a company that helps you get your CDL, do the training, and drive for them for 6 months or a year. Then, you can pretty much work anywhere you want, provided you keep your MVR clean.
     
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  6. tmobytayl

    tmobytayl Bobtail Member

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    To be "Like that" and outta the box again in Queens i would bet the oats that there's some cracked lights in that park lot.Snap, tho, I want to get to 50 posts so i can email my long lost family again.lol. I put my training on my own credit, one of those 5% for one year offers u'd get. Did it to buy a car also to save off useless, expensive full coverage.
     
  7. ronin

    ronin Road Train Member

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    What language is this person speaking?
     
  8. Flying Dutchman

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    I am not sure, however, I thought I decyphered something in there about wanting to reach 50 posts....he's at 5....we may be seeing a lot of this.
     
  9. bbqguy

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    Your situation is no different than anyone else. You are not, despite what you think, special or unique or born under the star of bethlehem. You don't need to attend a school that is that expensive, that is a free-will choice. I chose to attend a school that was 400 miles from home so that I could attend a reasonably priced, quality school. I also worked nights to help pay for the room that I rented while I was away from home.

    The fact that you don't want to pay whatever the amount might be and indebt yourself in order to get a job is irrelevant to the real-world where thousands of people successfully accomplish what you do not want to do.

    Uh, yes. So? I saved that money. You can work and save money and do the same thing. It's called working toward a goal. It means that you would have to do the grownup thing and delay immediate gratification in order to persue a greater objective. I know that you are part of the 'fast food' generation who believes that you should be able to immediately have what you want, but that is neither a mature outlook, nor a real-world reality.

    Because I want, because I want, because I want..... Sheesh, that is your entire theme. The problem is, the real world could care less what YOU want. The real world only cares about what you can accomplish. Thus far, you will not be able to accomplish what you want because the corner you want to paint yourself into has gotten way too small for any maneuvering.

    Then you have but one choice then, and that is to get a job (or keep the job you have) and save your pennies until you can find a school with the money you can afford. Get two jobs, if need be. Get a third job working on weekends. When I went to college back in the 70's to get my degree, I did just that. Two different convenience store jobs at different shifts, and then doing lawn work on the weekends.

    One ALWAYS has options. The fact that you refuse to take any other options but the one you choose to take, is not the same thing as having no options. The issue for you is not a lack of options, it is a lack of resolve.
     
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  10. ronin

    ronin Road Train Member

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    Very well said.
     
  11. Tazz

    Tazz Road Train Member

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    School?

    Hell go get your permit, find an O/O and lease him and his truck for an afternoon, go to the DMV and pass your test presto license and new career started.

























    What's that? You don't know how to pass the test? Better go to a school then! That sounds like your two options. See I could go take the bar exam next month if I paid the fee. However since I have no idea how to cite a precedent to the Tennessee Supreme Court I would need someone to teach me how that is done in the proper manner. Kinda like you need someone to show you how to drive in the proper manner. Otherwise you could just use my first suggestion.
     
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