Question about Canadian HOS

Another thing to remember is that in Canada our logs are in a 24 hour day. The US uses a sliding scale. Most often Canadian drivers use midnight to midnight as their day and in that 24 hour period one can ONLY drive 13 hours.

 

as a U.S. driver you want to stick to the U.S. rules while your in Canada as long as you aren't breaking any rules here. ie. the 34 hr rule needs to be 36 hrs in order to be legal here, which still keeps u legal in the U.S..
any place I've worked want us to run by the U.S. rules even in Canada because your rules meet all our requirements, that saves any problems for those of us who run both ways.
in other words I wouldn't recommend driving 13 hrs here and then crossing back to the U.S. with that in your logbook.

 

You are correct in the fact that a driver can't cross the border from Canada to the U.S. with more than 11 hours driving since their last 10-hour break because as soon as they cross the border they are out of hours. However, a driver going from Canada to the U.S. may have 13 hours of driving per work shift in the days prior to their crossing. That is not a violation. Of course, going U.S. to Canada, you want to make sure you get across the border before the end of the 11th driving hour so you can drive another 2 hours (assuming there is room on your 14).

Also, U.S. drivers do not need to have a 36 hour reset before coming to Canada. If a driver has had a legal (34 hour) reset in the U.S., then their hours are reset to zero and the only hours on their log that are applicable are the hours since their reset. Now, if they have to take a reset in Canada, then it needs to be 36 hours.

Six rules that can catch a driver crossing into Canada are: 1) 24 hour rest in the past 14 days, 2) 16 hour work shift, 3) past 14 days of logs, 4) mandatory reset, 5) minimum 10 hours off-duty every day, and 6) maximum 13 hours driving per 24-hour period.

1. Because a driver in the U.S. can drive every day for as many days as they want (staying within the U.S. HOS rules), they can end up in violation if they cross into Canada but do not have an off-duty period of at least 24 consecutive hours in the past 14 days. Therefore, depending on the number of days a driver has worked, they might have to take such a break just before they cross the border into Canada.
2. A driver can run afoul of the 16 hour work shift if they are using a split break in Canada, so if they aren't sure of the rule it is best to leave it alone.
3. Make sure you have 14 days of logs when you cross into Canada. This is probably the number one violation U.S. drivers get in Canada.
4. In Canada, once a driver hits their 70, then a 36 hour reset is mandatory (disregarding cycle 2--120 hr/14 day/24 hr rest/72 hr reset). There is no "regaining" hours like in the U.S.
5. Again unlike the U.S., a driver can't work indefinately, they must have a minimum 10 hours off-duty during every 24-hour period.
6. Say a driver starts with a fresh 13/14 at midnight; does a 15 minute pre-trip, then drives 13 hours, then takes 10 hours off. The time is now 11:15 PM and although the driver had a 10-hour rest they may not drive any of the 45 minutes remaining until midnight. After midight they can drive 13 hours providing they make it fit within the 14.

Clear?

 

I would recommend it because it's legal. Obey US laws in the USA and Canadian Laws in Canada and you'll be OK.

 

that driving only 11 in the us is funny when you watch everybody speeding to get back to buffalo or whereever so they can cross before time is up---then have the 2 more to make it back to the big smoke

the only thing that puzzles me is #6 oflostnfounds post
the driver has had his 10 hours off in a 24--soooo why cant he drive?
ok think i saw the answer--no more than 13 in 24---
but usually dont come up against that with taking a tiny break here and there and a pre trip and fuel

 

No more than 13 in a 'day' which is one log sheet. The day usually starts at midnight but can start at anytime the carrier designates.

You actually can drive more than 13 in a day using the off duty exception. You have to make up the difference the next day though.

 

The 36-hour reset is not mandatory as had I had previously understood it (#4). It is the required time in order to reset Cycle 1, but if a driver does not want to reset they can work in perpetuity so long as they are compliant with the daily rules, do not exceed 70/7 and have at least one 24-hour period off-duty every 14 days or after 70 hours.

Two very helpful links:

• Commercial Vehicle Drivers Hours of Service Regulations Application Guide (from the Canadian Council of Motor Transport Administrators)
• http://www.th.gov.bc.ca/cvse/national_safety_code/xls/Cycle1_HoS_Worksheet.xls This is a worksheet (Excel spreadsheet you can download) used by B.C. enforcement to review Cycle 1 logsheets.

 

BS....it's perfectly legal. US laws don't apply in this country nor our laws in the USA.

 

just trying to keep things simple.
unless your running cross Canada which most US drivers don't do here, just stick to the U.S. rules and save yourself the hassel, except the 36 hr rule while in Canada.
Cors I only bin doin this #### for nearly thirty years so what the f*** would I know?

 

30 years you say, where did 10 of them go? Your profile says 20.
You should still be learning young fella, this is my 51st year in the business. (Just retired again a month ago)

The hassle you speak of could allow him to get further down the road with the longer driving time in Canada.