CRE: My phase 1/phase 2 driving experience

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  1. teotl

    teotl Bobtail Member

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    My Phase 1 experience:

    My trainer made me drive when he didn't want to drive, had nothing to do with training and I was forced to drive regardless of how much sleep I'd had. As apprentices we're "not allowed to drive between 12 and 6am," but he forced me to if he didn't feel like it even if I was in the middle of sleeping. I should also note that I'd just gotten off a schedule of sleeping around 9 and getting up at 4am for school.

    One night around 2 am near Amarillo, TX, I took a break because I was swerving all over the road. I'd been driving for 9 hours (EDIT: He could barely drive for 4 hours without stopping for a 3 hour nap) and decided that maybe I should take a 45 min nap. I told him this and he said OK. When I pulled over he said "OK, 15 minutes. Hurry back." I asked him what about the nap. He said for me to deal with it. Ok.. I got out and went into the bathroom. I was scared because I didn't want to kill us both by running off the road. he got out and followed me and kept giving me weird looks. I asked him what his problem was and he said "you, you're my ####### problem, get your ### back to the truck." At this point I was terrified. I'd been told never to drive while fatigued but he was trying to force me. I then refused to drive claiming that I didn't feel safe. He screamed at me and told me I was useless and a terrible driver and demanded for me to give him my phone, claiming that it was keeping me awake (untrue; I put my phone on silent when I'm asleep). By this time I was in tears, he was literally hulking over me and he's about 4 times bigger than me. I was shaking so I called my fiance who told me to get off of the truck because this man was obviously irate and violent and was attempting to take away my means of calling the police if anything happened, and call safety.

    During the 4 1/2 weeks I was on his truck I was allowed 5 showers after begging him to stop.

    When I reported all of this to CRE, my TC was very rude and asked why I was saying all this about her trainer. No concern about his conduct. When I was done with phase 1 I didn't know how to back.

    My Phase 2 experience:

    I got a GREAT trainer for this. He worked with my schedule and was not a dick, never yelled at me, taught me how to back more than phase 1.. (still not much), taught me about paperwork and trip paks, let me plan trips, etc. Only problem was that I was getting paid .11 cents a mile instead of the .12 you're promised (http://www.crengland.com/truckdrivingschools/index.jsp?page=timeline). When I brought this up they said it's because I was dedicated (I signed no papers stating that I would get paid less on a dedicated run) and that if I didn't like it I could get on another truck. I refused, not wanting to get another psycho like my phase 1 trainer when I had a decent trainer right then. I lost about $400-500 because of that.

    I was yelled at again yesterday in the TC office in front of everyone and almost reached out and slapped that.. person. She screamed at me for taking hometime (7 days after 2 months.. I had to get my license and go to 4 doc appts), she yelled at me for misunderstanding a paper that said there were TWO phase 2 upgrade classes.. I could go to the 7am OR 12pm class.. apparently it's a two part class. This pamphlet did not say that, I had thought the classes were the same class at different times.

    All said and done, I still don't know how to back and I don't want anything to do with this company. I, or anyone for that matter, do not deserve to be treated like this. CRE is a very bad company and they lied to me. They ARE comitting fraud and I feel used.. $3,000 later.
     
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  3. Elendil

    Elendil Heavy Load Member

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    So when do you get your leased truck delivered?:biggrin_255:
     
  4. drvrtech77

    drvrtech77 Road Train Member

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    First off all, you did the right thing by parking. That's what's wrong withthis industry that has trainers whom shouldn't be trainers whatsoever !
     
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  5. teotl

    teotl Bobtail Member

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    LOL I'm not leasing. I almost did, actually, then I read the reviews.. XD
     
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  6. popmartian

    popmartian Road Train Member

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    I don't care about how crappy a trainer is, if a trainer treats you like a lap dog and a p.o.s. you need to stand up to them and say no more!

    CRE Loves it driver trainees......cheap seat meat.
     
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  7. wernerchallenged

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    Bad trainers are especially rough on women. I've seen it all. Want to learn how to drive and be safe, without being yelled at, insulted, manhandled, threatened, and abused (I speak from experience)? Get your boyfriend to take you to a really nice truckstop and find an owner-operator (it will be clear from the pride he takes in his truck). Offer him $500.00 cold cash for a couple of hours of training at some nearby Walmart parking lot. The boyfriend is your witness and your protection. (Do not do this alone, obviously.) That's what I did. I did it twice. I was able to get some confidence that way, and some driving tips, parking tips, skills to 'put it there' - which made all the difference. If there is anyone on this board who thinks this isn't necessary, you haven't been in our shoes. As a matter of fact, even a male driver could be helped by going this route. Sure, there are good trainers out there. But they're getting rare. Frankly, I never could find one. Never. The only 'nice' trainer I had told me I didn't need to learn how to downshift - just use the clutch and the brake. Seriously. The whole training scenario at all these companies is so skewered now that most of the trainers left are close to the bottom of the barrel.
     
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  8. fnlou88

    fnlou88 Light Load Member

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    Exactly how in the world can anyone expect to earn a "living" at eleven cents per mile?
     
  9. teotl

    teotl Bobtail Member

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    You don't. You sit here, broke, unable to pay bills, getting screamed at by some ##### in the TC office and now having multiple panic/anxiety attacks because you don't even think you're READY to go on the road alone but you NEED THE MONEY because you're living off of CRACKERS and WATER in the main CRE headquarters.

    I honestly want nothing to do with trucks. Ever. Ever. Ever. Again.

    I want to go back to school.
     
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  10. 48Packard

    48Packard Ol' Two-stop Shag!

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    If you really...REALLY....want to drive, going back to school will only act as an escape. You had a bad experience. We've all had 'em. You have to decide which direction you wish to go. And going back to school doesn't guarantee success, because the real world awaits.

    Take it from a 50-year-old who went through similar feelings in his 30s.
     
  11. 1catfish

    1catfish Road Train Member

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    going back to school would be the best thing you could do for yourself, trucking has and always will be the way you experienced it. i've been in this (cough) profession (cough) long enough to know you would be better off doing something else.:biggrin_25512:
     
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