100 Air Mile Radius and log books

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by photolurp2, Sep 29, 2009.

  1. Scalemaster

    Scalemaster Heavy Load Member

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    You are correct in your statement. All you have to carry with you are the Log sheets for the days you do not meet the 100 Mile exemption.

    That is not to say some LEO who is not as up-to-snuff on the regulations and their interpretations as Dieselbear will not give you grief over the missing days.

    newone2, your 100 mile exemption hours do add into your 70 for the week.
     
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  3. GasHauler

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    We never carried time sheets with us and we ran into this all the time. We would run 3 days all local then get an AZ load that was outside the 100 mile limit. I don't believe there's a requirement for time sheets to be carrier by the driver, if so please provide it.

    We had the logs for local and the regular logs. But if we ran regular logs we would just show the time that we were under the 100 mile rule to keep the paperwork all in line. You can just show in remarks that you were under the 100 mile rule and show your time and dates.
     
  4. Scalemaster

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    There are interpretations to the Federal Regulations. There is one regarding the 100 mile exemption in 395.1

    Question 21: When a driver fails to meet the provisions of the 100 air-mile radius exemption (section 395.1(e)), is the driver required to have copies of his/her records of duty status for the previous seven days?
    Guidance: The driver must only have in his/her possession a record of duty status for the day he/she does not qualify for the exemption. A driver must begin to prepare the record of duty status for the day immediately after he/she becomes aware that the terms of the exemption cannot be met.
    There is no requirement to carry your time sheets, or your exempt log with you. However, like I said before, some LEO might not be aware of this interpretation, and give you grief if you do not carry an exempt log, or something similar. It is not required, but may be a good idea.
     
  5. GasHauler

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    That's what I thought. The time sheets are the company's responsibility to maintain. Good idea??? maybe but I'd rather just show a log sheet that reflects the past days as local 100 mile exempt.
     
  6. SSgTom

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    Run a log everyday whether you're inside the 100nm/state line or not. After all, it's when you've been, not so where that concerns DOT.
     
  7. good for nuthin'

    good for nuthin' Light Load Member

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    Its safer to do both.you will need to have a record for the days events for the last 7/8 days.
     
  8. Roadmedic

    Roadmedic Road Train Member

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    When running local under the 100 mile rule, you are not required to have a log book period.

    Since the log book is not required and you elect to complete one for the day, you are not subject to having the previous 7 days.
     
  9. Big Red

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    The best policy is to CYA and have a record of your previous 7 days hours.

    Trying to make your case on the side of the road at 3AM isn't my idea of
    fun. Been there......Done that.

    I personally don't want to be shut down for 10 hours and written a ticket
    because some LEO doesn't understand the rules and how they work for
    150 mile radius drivers. (It's 150 miles in Texas)
     
  10. Roadmedic

    Roadmedic Road Train Member

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    We have the same rule.

    But many companies run only these miles and they are returning each day.

    The problem is that the time record is kept by the company not the driver.

    When in doubt, you can do a book and I see no problem with it. Many scale houses will also not have a problem with the term "Local 100 Air Miles"
     
  11. Big Red

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    We keep our own records....time sheets.

    The only difference is that we run a 11/14 hour time sheet with oilfield
    exemption....get's confusing for us and even worse for LEOs who don't
    understand how THAT works.

    When we travel outside our 150 miles.....we run log pages.....and attach
    them to our time sheets at the end of the week.

    Like I said......CYA......it's saved me from more than one unwanted and
    unnecessary 10 hour break when I still had work to do.
     
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