Our driver normally drives about 5 hours a day out of his 8 hour shift with most of the driving in a 50 mile radius, But once a month or so he will drive to one customer who is 240 miles away. so round trip is 480 miles. It is a 8 hour round trip. How is he supposed to keep his logbook? Does he keep one everyday or just on the days he drives the long trip?
I have called the feds and states and get conflicting answers. I would love to see the answer in a real book
Thanks,
Granny
p.s. our truck is a smaller 25999 GVW
around town small trucker occasaional drives over 100 miles
Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by Granny, May 27, 2011.
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Granny, if a log was done for every day then you would be compliant at all times including when the occasional long trip comes up. It only takes a minute or two to complete a log book...
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I hauled gas locally and we never used a log book. We did however have a couple stations that were outside the 100 mile range and required us to use a log book. We would turn in a log for the day we went to those stations. The rest of the time we just did a time sheet.
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I just read that when a driver occasionly fails to meet the provisions of the 100 air mile radius exemption that he doesnt have to have a log for the previous exempt days, but he does have a log sheet for that day.
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Question 21: When a driver fails to meet the provisions of the 100 air-mile radius exemption (section 395.1(e)), is the driver required to have copies of his/her records of duty status for the previous seven days? Must the driver prepare daily records of duty status for the next seven days?
Guidance: The driver must only have in his/her possession a record of duty status for the day he/she does not qualify for the exemption. A driver must begin to prepare the record of duty status for the day immediately after he/she becomes aware that the terms of the exemption cannot be met The record of duty status must cover the entire day, even if the driver has to record retroactively changes in status that occurred between the time that the driver reported for duty and the time in which he/she no longer qualified for the 100 air-mile radius exemption. This is the only way to ensure that a driver does not claim the right to drive 10 hours after leaving his/her exempt status, in addition to the hours already driven under the 100 air-mile exemption -
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I know, but since our drivers may not drive but once a week, they forget to do it. We have one guy who drives almost everyday around town.
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Depends are you interstate or intrastate. If interstate the quote you supply covers Federal regulations but states may exceed those (GA). That may be the reason for the conflicting answers.
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I agree with the "previous seven day rule" pointed out in a previous post. If you drive & are suposed to log (on this trip), you must be able to provide the previous seven days log(s). If stoped at the scales or for a roadside inspection, ... IMO... you must be able to provide a current log book which should contain the previous seven days log. Just because your driver is standing beside the road trying to convience a DOT officer that he doesnt go intra-state but once every week or so, is probably not going to be believed. However, it is the truth, he is problay not going to believe that. However, you STILL must be able to show the previous seven days log, if you are in a "log" situation when checked. So, IMO, you can be given a ticket.
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If he has to check more than one state he is an interstate driver and must comply with the FMCSR.
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Correct. However if calling and phrasing the question as a local she may get conflicting answers. In addition states can exceed FMCSR's and require stricter guidelines such as producing the previous seven days when FMCSA guidance would say otherwise. Georgia used to be that way, but I believe they changed to mirror FMCSR's like most states.
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