Unavoidable overweight's

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by Logan76, May 22, 2011.

  1. Jfaulk99

    Jfaulk99 Road Train Member

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    Wanna bet the "no such thing" people will pretend your post doesn't exist?:biggrin_25517:
     
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  3. Logan76

    Logan76 Crusty In Training

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    Same with coal, Wet coal is heavier than dry coal, obviously.
     
  4. freightlinerman

    freightlinerman Road Train Member

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    Thank you, great point. To answer some other posts:

    1. Every situation is different, but yes some things are unavoidable like the post about potatoes shifting. When someone REALLY over loads a trash bin, to me that's totally different.

    2. I may be ignorant on something but I try to be upfront about it. No, I don't know if there are CSA points accessed.

    The issue I have, is that the company or the driver REFUSES to do anything to stop the customer from purposely over loading the bin. As the posted quoted above, it only hurts you. If you were a mechanic and you were paid to do a brake job, but someone expected you to do a couple other things included in that price, would you? You're only hurting the equipment and the road, and putting others in danger with an over loaded vehicle. Let's be real, 2k in potatoes is not a real danger. My dad picked up a load in Laredo from that came across the border, someone loaded it totally wrong. I think he had 60-70k gross on the tractor, the rest was on the trailer tandems. If you couldn't get it legal, he just barely managed to, would you drive and say its un-avoidable? Answer, it is AVOIDABLE. Refuse to drive it, make them re-distribute the weight.

    I'm open to constructive criticism, I give plenty of it myself and my lost post was pretty vague, but lets be real here, having a head light burn out I would not expect someone to pull over and call for road service. When I worked at a truck rental and leasing company, a 26k box truck was pulled into the scale house with the front axle over loaded, I forget the weight. The box was completely full, there was no room to move anything around to shift the weight. The people working the scales let him go, good call.
     
  5. fancypants

    fancypants Medium Load Member

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    Done that logs an chips take the ticket an keep trucking.3000 over gross = $300.00. the cost of doing buniness.Upstate ny. logs.
     
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  6. Logan76

    Logan76 Crusty In Training

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    What your not getting here is a thing called "business". If I have a scrap bin, I send it out with no clue what it weighs, the driver picks it up and he grosses 90k, but the scrap company tells me that it weighed 75k gross. I'm just assuming that's some of the business stuff that goes on behind closed doors.
     
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  7. KO1927

    KO1927 Medium Load Member

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    That's the plan, and thankfully my boss has agreed to pay any overweight tickets.
     
  8. KO1927

    KO1927 Medium Load Member

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    Thanks to your quote, they'll have to skip over it twice now! :biggrin_25512:
     
  9. crzyjarmans

    crzyjarmans Road Train Member

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    your company may pay the fines, but it still on your record, and eventually it will hurt you, now with thiis csa2010 its going to get worce, your company should talk with there clients about the weight and the trouble it could cost, and maybe install onboard scales, so you know the weight, and have the client remove some
     
  10. Prairie Boy

    Prairie Boy Road Train Member

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    Well then if not hauling is not an option you can always pay the fine.
     
  11. ronin

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    I am/was one of the "no such thing" people, and I hauled wood chips in Northern Idaho and Montana.. usualy grossed between 102-104k on a 105k max.

    We loaded what we thought was close, went and scaled, and then topped off if need be - we (and the company) were paid on tons hauled, so it didn't make sense to play it safe... I always got as close to 105k as I could.

    If you have a scale to weigh gross for pay purposes, then you can axle out... or at least use your air gauge to weigh the tractor/drives.. make your mark on the gauge at just under gross.. and roll on.

    There's always a way... and there's always an excuse.
     
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