Hubby lost his job today...

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by tbrown_sd, Jun 7, 2011.

  1. tbrown_sd

    tbrown_sd Light Load Member

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    I'm looking for a glimmer of hope here. My husband went back to work for GTI in early April - had an accident a month later (DOT-preventable) that was considered mutual fault of the POV and himself. He was not cited for the accident. GTI counseled him re: the accident and the fact it appeared he was speeding downhill. A month later he was routed to a drop yard in Denver and informed of the termination. Safety said that he still was having issues downhill. He's currently enroute from Denver in a Greyhound (just his luck, the bus broke down 3 hours out and they were being taken back from Denver:biggrin_25513:). Of course he's feeling like hell.
    He started with GTI in '06 and quit after 3 months - overwhelmed. He drove FB for Arrow for almost 2 years and then left when things were getting real iffy with the money, e.g. could not get truck repaired. He worked for ConWay Freight on the docks for almost 2 years before beginning back with GTI.

    Here's the question: Do you feel that he has a chance of getting hired on with a company after being terminated? He has no other accidents, no tickets in last 4 years. He does not blame GTI, rather, he believes they are a really good company. No one can fault safety-conscious. How can he go about getting hired at a decent company?
     
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  3. ProPilot

    ProPilot Light Load Member

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    A month into the game he has a preventable that most likely involved vehicle control (speed)? And then he continued to have issues with VC after the accident?....

    What's more: if he was "overwhelmed" at GTI the first time around, what made him think it would be any better in round 2?

    Insurance companies have tightened their criteria and with improvements in predictive driver behavior applications and CSA looming over their heads, Carriers aren't fooling around anymore. They'll fire first and maybe answer questions later...

    This job isn't for anyone. Just because he lasted two years at Arrow flatbedding doesn't mean necessarily mean he can leap right into and be able to handle the aggravation and stress of just-in-time reefer and van ops.

    I'd say it's a bit of a demotion...

    But it isn't impossible - another company may interpret his accident/incident record as minor and hire him on - he may have to do the trainer/trainee thing for a while but that's the price you pay in this business, fair or not...

    BOL
     
    Nightfall Thanks this.
  4. tbrown_sd

    tbrown_sd Light Load Member

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    Thanks for your candor ProPilot. The accident did not involve speed or control, from how I understand. He was in a left turn heading to deliver, the POV came up from behind and get on his left side trying to get around him. I heard that directly from the CHP officer when he came up to get hubby's statement (he had called me while waiting for someone to show up); he said the lady admitted she was trying to get around him. As I said, he was not cited. He was informed by his company that he should have been on the lookout for her no matter where she came from. His issue with speed has been down mountains. He downshifts to a very low gear but somehow has still messed up.

    What the heck is CSA (sorry:-( ? )

    We live in San Diego. Can you recommend any companies that you believe would hire him per your first reply?

    Thanks so much.
     
  5. tbrown_sd

    tbrown_sd Light Load Member

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    Thanks Nightfall - you cheered me up a little...I especially like the Paris Hilton joke!

    Regarding the companies that you mention, are they connected to companies that hire out of San Diego? Do you know any companies to contact directly (of course we will be looking at Craig's List, Indeed.com, etc.)
     
  6. Heirforce1

    Heirforce1 Medium Load Member

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    Previous post was 100% spot on. It will be difficult getting hired with most companies and the garbage pit companies might be the ones you have to go with. You might get lucky and the accident and the termination might not appear on the DAC report to keep the company's insurance price down. It happened to me with an incident with Western Express a few yrs ago. So it's not impossible to jump back in the game however whatever issue you have with being in proper gear on the hills needs to be resolved first. Good luck going forward!!
     
  7. tbrown_sd

    tbrown_sd Light Load Member

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    You are EXACTLY right!! Doesn't help that I just bought him a 43QT EdgeStar Fridge/Freezer for his truck - not cheap!! It came the day before he got terminated, which was today...
     
  8. Luzon

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    "Safety said that he still was having issues downhill." What that means is that GTI, like most sizeable companies, has the ability to monitor speeds, speeds on grades, and just about every other scenario you could think of. If they suspect that speed was an issue for an accident, you can bet that someone will be keeping their eye on that very thing for a while.

    When they see that a driver is still making the same mistakes after counseling then the prudent thing to do is to release the driver.

    After having a preventable accident, a driver should be slowing down and exercising a lot of caution for a good while to make sure there aren't further issues.

    Should he find another job, I'd advise him to slow down, leave more following space, and try to keep a better eye on what's happening around him at all times. I know that that's so much easier said than done, but he's got to do it. That's trucking. The hardest part of the job, in my opinion, is staying alert 100% of the time.

    Here's a few companies to try:

    Knight Transportation
    Navajo
    Con--Way Truckload
    May Trucking
    Cal-Ark
    Southern Refrigerated Transport

    Best of luck!
     
  9. tbrown_sd

    tbrown_sd Light Load Member

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    Thanks to you, as well as the other drivers that have weighed in...it is appreciated.

    Only one thing, as said in my earlier post, the accident had nothing to do with speed. True, he does need to get it together if he wants to drive out there. I will never say that GTI pushed him in any illegal type of way, but they did run him in absolute circles at times - running to yards to get loads only to find out it had already been picked up...back and forth, back and forth...

    For what it's worth for anything, GTI is self-insured.
     
  10. 25(2)+2

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    The reason the accident was considered preventable is that people doing dumb things should be anticipated, you need to watch out for idiots trying to pass you when you are making a left turn and be ready to stop instead of hitting them or 'causing' them to hit your vehicle.

    Company policy dictates how descending grades is to be done, and that can vary.

    It should vary with the load and if the truck is equipped with engine brake and which ones .It is better to go down more slowly than is needed than to go down without restraint.
     
  11. tbrown_sd

    tbrown_sd Light Load Member

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    Truer words can not be spoken!! I have seen people cut trucks off in all types of fashion, creating a situation where the drivers have to slam their brakes. If anything were to happen, the truck driver will most definitely be blamed.
     
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