Base Plate and Title

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by jdrentzjr, Jun 27, 2011.

  1. nctraveler

    nctraveler Bobtail Member

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    Yes you can do that. I use the state of Oklahoma to title my trucks but run IL plates thru my carrier that I am leased to. In my home state of NC I do not have to pay all the ridiculous taxes that way.
    Up until a few years ago you could buy a OK plate very cheap no matter where you lived but the other states and the government put a stop to that.
     
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  3. jdrentzjr

    jdrentzjr Road Train Member

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    Thanks for the answers! Now I need to research to find out if TX has any financial obligations to having a truck titled in TX but base plated in NE.
     
  4. BigJohn54

    BigJohn54 Gone, but NEVER forgotten

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    IMHO, if you're leased and the company is furnishing the base plate you can. It also depends on the lien and who holds the title. Your intent would play a part to.

    In Missouri you recieve your title with a lien recorded on it. Missouri, as I am sure most states, require that you title, license and pay ad valorem tax on motor vehicles. This is a source of revenue for the state.

    Can you do it? Yes you can. I have done just that in Oklahoma using a P.O. Box. If you get caught you could face some serious penalities. They could get you for fraud as well as the failure to pay the fees.

    Again JMO and I am not an expert on anything, but I think a lot of things come into play with this question. If I were to do this again, I'd have something stronger than a P.O. Box to support my cause. If you live and park in a certain state and purchase your plate in another, it isn't to hard to arrive at the decision that you recieve something in return for the inconvenience that you endure doing this. If my intent wasn't to avoid fees and taxes, my comfort level would increase.
     
  5. jdrentzjr

    jdrentzjr Road Train Member

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    The reason I asked this question is because I'm considering a carrier that requires your title to be in TX. They're also based in TX and I live there as well. I was just thinking I might change the title location while still leased to a carrier who provides base plates out of a different state. However, this was just a thought and was curious if it could be done.
     
  6. BigJohn54

    BigJohn54 Gone, but NEVER forgotten

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    With that setup I can't imagine any problems. I'm more of a spurt than an expert though. I've done it to avoid hundreds in taxes and base plate costs. Most states are cracking down on this nowdays. I wouldn't do it nowdays to save money but I prefer not to look over my shoulder.

    I wonder if Texas isn't a lot like Missouri in making sure they get their revenue. Without state income tax I would think they would have to be. Many states could learn a thing or two from the way they do things. I heard yesterday on Fox news that Texas was the second or third best run state based on debt, pension management and such. It was an independent survey by a big business oufit, maybe Fortune, something like that.
     
  7. jdrentzjr

    jdrentzjr Road Train Member

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    THE biggest reason TX is doing so well is the oil and gas industry. And I thank God for it. It's to be a great manager when you have money to manage.

    The biggest problem with states at the other end of the spectrum is over taxation. When you tax personal and business finances to a point that both leave your state, you no longer have finances to manage. Then to make things worse they want to raise taxes on those who remain to make up the lost revenue. IDIOTS I say.

    It may hurt in the short term, but cutting governmental spending is the best solution. I'm no expert either, but I'm pretty sure if this works for our personal finances, it will also work in our governmental finances. Federal and state.

    I'm stepping down from the soap box now.
     
  8. BigJohn54

    BigJohn54 Gone, but NEVER forgotten

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    That's the same soap box I use. If you could spend your way out of trouble, we'd all be rich. You're right about having money to manage.
     
  9. Lee Carter

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    you can go thru a tag service that will supply you with a PO box in some states. i feel it is more hassle than it's worth
     
  10. BigBadBill

    BigBadBill Bullishly Optimistic

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    Having just gone thru this in December and not wanting to plate in home state of IL (talk about taxing business out of the state) it is becoming harder and harder to find work a rounds to plating in different state. I just laughed when I was jumping through all the hoops to justify base plating out of IL. Only an insane person would want to come from another state and base in IL.
    Most of these agencies that provided out of state plating services have shut down. The only way to get plates from a different state than the one your business is based in is if you have a physical place of operation in another state, business relationship with business in another state (when you lease to a carrier) or have a legal residence in another state.
    Most all of the tricks to base out of a cheaper state have been shut-down by current IRP rules and states like CA and IL looking hard at the cheaper states to see if they are cheating.
     
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  11. G/MAN

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    Most states now require proof of residency to get your base plates in their state. They require that you have a copy of tax receipt, utility bill, etc., You can title in your home state, but some carriers will require owner operators who lease to them to get their base plates in their state or one where they have an office. Landstar plates in Illinois, as do a number of major carriers. I would expect that they get a break on the cost, but don't really know for sure. If you run your authority then you will need to either plate in your home state or have a physical address and proof of residency in a different state. Some carriers will allow you to buy your own plates in your home state. You will still need to prove residency, but will also be required to show the state a copy of your lease agreement with the carrier.
     
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