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Run Legal or Be on Time????

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by BridgettAnn, Jul 6, 2011.

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  1. Jul 6, 2011 #1
    BridgettAnn

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    Hi, I am new to the forum and so glad I found this resource. I hope some one has some good advice. My significant other recently signed on as an o/o with a very large co. In the orientation, they stress safety and running legal and in real life, on occasion the dispatcher gives him runs that cannot be done in the 11 and 14 hour rules. Mostly because of waiting at the shipper for long periods of time. These are otherwise, do-able runs. He is already very late to his final drop off after a round trip run. She calls him every couple of hours wanting to know how far he is from making the drop. All of this after only a four hour nap and needing to finish with another 4 before he can legally move again. The issue is that there really is no way to finish this run legally without finishing the other four hr. sleeper. There is an obvious conflict. A catch 22 so to speak. What do these companies really care about? Safety and running legal or being on time?
    Any comments are greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
    ~BridgettAnn
     
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  3. Jul 6, 2011 #2
    THBatMan8

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    It's not the dispatchers job to look at your logbook. As I stated in another thread, it's all in your trip planning. If you cant run a load legally, then refuse it. Your dispatcher can say what they want, but it's your CDL and it's your job; not theirs. Staying legal is more important than making delivery on time.

    What makes me laugh is when my dispatcher tells me I'm the only truck in the area..... Really??? Of 4,000+ trucks in the company, I'm the only truck in Omaha? :biggrin_2559:
     
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  4. Jul 6, 2011 #3
    BridgettAnn

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    yes. I agree with you wholeheartedly. I can't for the life of me understand why things aren't more cohesive within these big companies. One would think that your dispatcher would know that he or she is sending you on a run that you can not possibly do legally AND be on time. There needs to be more shared responsibility here. Initially the run could have been done legally. However he was detained at the loading dock for more than 4 hours. This is what threw the monkey wrench in.
    ~BridgettAnn
     
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  5. Jul 6, 2011 #4
    Jumbo

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    Well yeah, EVERYBODY else was over in Lincoln.
     
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  7. Jul 6, 2011 #5
    Jumbo

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    Held up four hours at shipper? Then you tell your husband to tell his dispatcher to tell the reciever that "The truck was held up for four hours at the shipper and your load will get there when the truck does".
     
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  8. Jul 6, 2011 #6
    THBatMan8

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    You would think so, but the average dispatcher has 150ish trucks in their fleet to manage. Believe it or not, you do help them out by refusing a load if you can't legally run it. If the dispatcher still wants you to run the load, go over their head and file a complaint to the safety department. The dispatcher will never 2nd guess you after that.
     
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    THBatMan8

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    There must have been a good looking lizzard in Lincoln. :biggrin_2559:
     
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  10. Jul 6, 2011 #8
    Jumbo

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    They will look the other way until it all goes south, then they will throw your dh under the bus to save themselves.
     
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  11. Jul 6, 2011 #9
    flood

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    i quick fix for this is to have your significant other tell his dispatch (the next time he calls ) "i can't on time because of HOS" and if that doesn't work have him ask "do we need to talk to safety about the HOS..?" and if the dicpatcher still pushes it CALL SAFETY....! that should fix it.

    run legal or don't run, i have seen drivers do repowers because a driver ran out of hours "elog" less than 2 miles from the del....
     
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  12. Jul 6, 2011 #10
    flood

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    most of the big companies the dispatcher just puts the load on you they don't even look at it it's the load planner that sends the P/P to the truck.

    this load COULD have been made on time IF he had not been held up "thats not his fault" and they (the csr) needs to change the del time (happens all the time) or the dispatch need to find a repower...!

    run it legally as far as he can and then STOP THE TRUCK some place safe ( i have done this) let THEM find a way to get it their. remember it's NOT HIS FAULT it will be late.

    that is what i would tell him and that is what i have done.... i had to do it two times and then it never came up again when i said i didn't have the hr's to make it on time.
     
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