Is this a legal split break example?

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by BridgettAnn, Jul 6, 2011.

  1. BridgettAnn

    BridgettAnn Light Load Member

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    Can someone please tell me if this is a legal split log example. I understand the 11 & 14, but I get lost with the split.. if this is right, I think I get it... and even if its wrong, I think I get it. Lol.

    Okay here goes:

    Off for the holiday weekend.

    Start day at 3:00 pm. Arrive at shipper 3:15. Loaded at 3:30 pm.

    Drive until 6:30 pm. Take a 2 hour lunch break and fuel

    Drive from 8:30 pm to Drop at 10:00 pm.

    spend 1.5 hour on duty at receiver.

    Drive 11:30 pm to 12:15 am to next shipper

    loaded and back on road by 1:00 Am

    **So far I am at 5.5 total driving hours and 10 hours on duty time**

    Drive from 1:00 Am to 3:00 Am

    take a sleeper break from 3:00 Am to 7:00 Am.

    Drive from 7:00 am to 10:30 Am and arrive at receiver. off duty.

    Question is, did the 14 hour clock start over after the 2 hour sleeper break ?? Plueezze help.
    Thanks,
    ~BridgettAnn:biggrin_25513:
     
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  3. BridgettAnn

    BridgettAnn Light Load Member

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    Correction... Did the 14 hour clock start after the 4 hour sleeper break? Does it have to be only 2 hours? And if this is an illegal log, where would I have had to have the eight to make it legal?
    ~BridgettAnn
     
  4. wulfman75

    wulfman75 Road Train Member

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    You need 8 straight hours in the sleeper for split berth to start the clock over. The other 2 hours can either be sleeper or line one.
     
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  5. BridgettAnn

    BridgettAnn Light Load Member

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    Sorry Rerun. Im new here and was just trying to post to the most appropriate forum. :biggrin_25524:
    ~BridgettAnn
     
  6. flood

    flood Road Train Member

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    short is NO it's not legal
    the 11/14 ONLY stop with a 8hr sleeper break
    so at 0445 your 14 was done that is because you didn't show 15min pretrip to start you day
     
  7. Meltom

    Meltom Road Train Member

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    What you described is a mess. If you need to split get in contact with your safety/compliance department. They are there to help (and scold)
     
  8. BridgettAnn

    BridgettAnn Light Load Member

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    No. I am not a driver. I am just using a hypothetical to try and learn some things. My S/O has been an OTR O/O for 30 years. I know he knows what he is doing. He of course does all pre/post trip inspections. This is just me trying to learn the split break rules. I saw an example on the werner website that had some nice log examples but were a little confusing because it showed 5 hours of driving, a 2 hour break and then it stated " forget everything prior to the 2 hour break. Start the 14 hour clock at 0700", which was after driving from 12:00 Am to 5:00 am and then taking a 2 hour sleeper until 7:00 Am.
     
  9. THBatMan8

    THBatMan8 Road Train Member

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    Yeah, you violated the 14 hour clock. You need a 8 hour consecutive break to stop the 14 hour clock (if you want a 8-2 split). Even though you took a break for 4 hours, that clock is still ticking.

    Be careful with 8-2 splits though. Any drive time after the 8 hr break is borrowed time from your next 11 hr clock.
     
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  11. BridgettAnn

    BridgettAnn Light Load Member

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    Sigh. Perhaps I overstepped my bounds in coming to this site to learn stuff. Not sulking... I understand that you fine, seasoned truck drivers probably have little patience for this kind of thing. I will take note for the future.
    Actually, he did not run this trip the way I gave the hypothetical. As I said, that was just me trying to understand some confusing stuff about the split break rule, which btw, he never uses. He is driving for a new company. They gave him a run that couldn't be done legally and be on time. Had he not been detained at the receiver for several hours, it would have been both legal and on time. He did the 10 hours in the sleeper and the load was several hours late. Just my curiosity to see if and how it could have been managed differently. Thats all.
    ~BridgettAnn
     
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