Falisfy or log a violation?

They nailed you for an empty trailer? How? I thought the regs stated "empty trailer."

Hrm, nope. That was a note my company must have added to this: http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=455543408227 They printed this out last month and left in it all the driver's mailboxes.

 

Yeah, that link is apparently all the details there are and most of it is interpretation.

 

We were always told by our log guy that to be personal conveyance you had #### well better be logged off and on duty in the same location to avoid an officer believing you were just advancing to your next commercial load.

As for you original question I have logged a thiry minute violation on the way home. When inspected I was up front with said officer that it was not a math error but rather my need to go meet my daughter. I asked for no dispensation but recieved no violation. My belief is he respected the honesty.

Truthfully how many times do you think you can log right up to your 11 or 14 hours just in the nick of time for a delivery or safe haven before the evidence of pattern logging shines through. Sme with always logging right up to the allowable limit for your miles day after day after day.......

 

Since I've never been questioned on it and it's now backed up by an electronic log with full gps tracking, as much as I want. I've never been one to leave a noticeable pattern, though. I run all my hours out most days but never in the same way.

 

No, I'm not that stupid. I have fudged to make things fit but I do get my rest (I need it) and if I log a reset it's because I did one.

Here's an example: I got a load to pick up at 7 am. It's mid afternoon and I'm just leaving from way up north. I could get there just fine, but could not legally get up to load at 7am. So I go straight there and park for the night. I get up and tell them where the load's going in the morning so they know what to put on, they load me, bring me the paperwork, and I pull out and park 50 feet away on the side of the building to finish out my break. That was the last load of the week so no rush. Took a 12 hour break with an hour of loading in the middle. Legal? No. Unsafe? Hardly. Chance of getting busted? Nill.

 

"Dropping trips" is common amongst folks who want to make some hours. Perfect example - I worked with a guy when I was expediting, who always bragged that he never ran out of hours. We regularly ran from Detroit to Laredo, and in addition to other "changes" in his logs, he never went farther than San Antonio (in writing). He always showed picking up and dropping off in SA, even got questioned about it, told the officer that his company has a guy who just runs Laredo to SA, and he picks up the trailer in SA - that save 5 hours per trip, roughly... 2.5 down, 2.5 back.

He'd also run detroit to Laredo, straight through, then do a log sheet showing that he'd just spent 7-8 days off duty and in the shop... always had a fresh 70.

Our logs weren't looked at by anyone - Canadian company dispatched us and that's where we sent the logs, and they got trashed because we REALLY ran for a company in Ohio... and our Ohio-based truck owner never saw them... and said repeatedly that she didn't want to.

 

I'm amazed by the hypocrites on here that are saying covering up a few minutes here or there happens and things happen when on another thread those same people were telling how things are always perfect in their fantasy world they live in and condemning others for fudging a log now and then. I guess some people should try harder to remember what they say from day to day.