Ok I have a question that I'm sure someone here can answer. Can you sleep in a daycab if your driving in the oilfields and get stuck with a load waiting to be offloaded?
The reason I ask this is I was told today this is happening to my cousin's husband he's driving for BJ services and was told sometimes he gets stuck for a day or more in a daycab on site. I thought that DOT regulations required them to either have a sleeper or get a motel room if your beyond your 14 hour work allowance.
Any information on this would be useful as I'm looking to get into hauling sand in the fields and would like to know in advance if this is something they can legally do to a driver.
Oilfield daycab question
Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by smarttowers, Aug 8, 2011.
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Thenn go to the interpretation page and read questions 6-11.
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Thank you for the reply I have read and re-read both the interpretation page and the rules that you quoted but still don't know my answer. I honestly am not trying to avoid the research here I did a search for this and didn't find a definitive answer on the forum also read and re-read your links but still can't conclude the answer.
I may be tired I'll read them again tomorrow but also take into account currently I don't have my cdl and am only researching as much as I can before making decisions. Figured as I'm waiting for WIA processing I would do as much research as I possibly can so I know what I'm getting myself into and to make a proper determination of what driving job is best for me.
Anyone else who has a definitive answer would be appreciated if they could reply also. I know there are a few O/O who run in the fields and maybe they know more of the legalities of that specific work. -
I haven't read them thoroughly, but it appears that if your cousin's husband is in the cab of a cement pumper, frac pumper, blender, etc. (the "specially constructed" CMVs referred to in 395.1(d)(2)), then his waiting time does not count as on-duty (nor, obviously, sleeper berth if none exists). The exemption does not appear to cover cement or sand bulk haulers or the like.
I would have to read the rule referred to in the Interpretation, but trying to qualify bulk haulers under that exemption would be a stretch. I can say that with some authority having cemented, acidized, frac'd, etc., hundreds of oilwell, so I am more than a little familiar with all of the related equipment. However, two caveats, most of my work was in Canada, and it was all done at a time when we were not required to use any form of logbooks. -
As with all things "Trucking" Rules and Laws are "subjective"
The daycab venture is what it is out in the patch.
Oilfield is oilfield,doesnt matter if it cement,water or sand
You must have a 5 line log in order to push the 14 rule under the Oilfield exemption.
The reality of trucking is not as sanitary as they have brain washed rookies to believe.
You cry foul and your on your way out,its simple as that.
Gut this out like anything else thats uncomfortable and it will be but a memory
further down the road.Your being paid to sleep so make the best of it.
1) 6' 2x12" will span the seats for suitable rest in a
one stack with a window in the back. -
I agree with the comment above. The driver sleeping in the daycab is not going to do much besides get fired. Find another job first and then consider if you want to kick a hornets nest.
Nobody is suggesting you might not have a real grievance here or whether it's safe.
If the consensus is that it's legal, it still sounds like a bad situation, worthy of finding another job. -
Quiting is the most likely,not many can handle the demands
of oilfield work.
Its not all that hard,its just that folks are pathetically lazy
and refuse to earn their keep.Licensed to kill and MacGyver. Thank this. -
I only was questioning this more for what could happen to your CDL then having to sleep in the cab. I started researching solutions to this when it looked like its legal so wouldn't give you DOT problems. I was thinking if it would be possible to construct a folding platform to span the seats. Then I would put one of the largest self inflating camp pads on it.
Trust me I'm willing to adapt to the situation as long as its not illegal and going to have the end result being dings on my cdl or possibly losing it. I can be fairly creative and I'm sure I can come up with a solution to sleeping in a daycab if needed. -
Well, is this under the "100 mile" rule or OTR ? Obviously, you can't log "sleeper" in a day cab. But when "off duty" you can do as you please and sleep where you want, such as in a tent, on a couch in the drivers lounge, at a cousins spare bedroom, or even across the seats in a day cab !
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The issue isn't whether this qualifies as short-, or long-haul, but what is legal insofar as the OILFIELD OPERATIONS exception.
Under the regular rules (aside from exceptions like OILFIELD OPERATIONS), a driver cannot log off-duty time in the cab of a truck.
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