Lumper scam

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by gravdigr, Aug 30, 2011.

  1. gravdigr

    gravdigr Road Train Member

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    Wow what a scam these companies have going. I'm relatively new and have only used lumpers a few times. Now I can understand a warehouse where a company pays another company to unload and sort their shipments, but I'm being unloaded at a company where you pay them to unload their own cargo. That is unreal. Not that I care being a company driver I don't pay for it. But bet your behind if I was an o/o I'd be adding the lumper fee into the cost. $150 to unload 13k/lbs of styrofoam?

    I remember back when I had my monument company and would get granite deliveries on a flatbed. If I told the shipper they would have to pay me to unload the truck they'd laugh in my face.
     
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  3. smarttowers

    smarttowers Light Load Member

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    Yeah definitely sounds like a nice little scam going there.
     
  4. PackRatTDI

    PackRatTDI Licensed to Ill

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    The most I ever paid was $240 for a load all on the floor. To top it off the shipper, Van De Kamps of Jackson, TN charged $70 to load the trailer.
     
  5. AXE

    AXE Road Train Member

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    325 last week to unload light bulbs in Memphis. Plus 7.5 hours to do it.
     
  6. smarttowers

    smarttowers Light Load Member

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    I don't understand how the company outsourcing the loading and unloading operations should become the trucking company problem. I mean honestly when a company is bringing another company in to do these kinds of positions its generally because they feel its economically beneficial to do it.

    So now they have managed to remove jobs from their company bring in a contractor which theoretically reduced costs. THEN they get to charge the trucks a fee to unload so they have basically passed the unloading costs off to the trucking companies. I have to say honestly I'm surprised the industry as a whole let it happen but now that it has its virtually irreversible.
     
  7. smarttowers

    smarttowers Light Load Member

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    I'm just a wannabee here but why are they even stacking items on the bed of the trucks? Isn't this what pallets were designed for? It seems like extreme waste on the part of the companies shipping and receiving the goods to do it this way. I understand in some cases there may be valid reason to not use pallets but when your talking about light bulbs if its normal ones I don't see a valid reason.
     
  8. otherhalftw

    otherhalftw R.I.P.

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    The carriers don't absorb the off load/break down cost...it is figured into the price of haul.

    If you figure in all the overhead of each employee...it does make sense to out-hire a minimum wage or commission position.

    Pallets have cost...they don't just magically appear. Plus the 4 inches of height the pallet adds to the stack height could be the difference of one layer of product per pallet...or more!

    Floor stacking is more space efficient...in other words, the shipper can get more product on the trailer. That holds true for lightweight loads...light bulbs, butt wipe, "popcorn" packaging material....some places board up the back of the trailer, cut a hole in the new "wall" then blow in the "popcorn"...the receiver will then vacuum out the product in a similar fashion.

    And the driver gets to clean up the residual mess!
     
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  9. YankeeJack

    YankeeJack Bobtail Member

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    So who pays these "fees"? Are you, the driver, expected to have this cash on hand in order to get loaded/unloaded?
     
  10. About Time

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    I believe the normal payment is thru a comcheck from your company, no cash out of pocket.
     
  11. PackRatTDI

    PackRatTDI Licensed to Ill

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    Some places the lumpers won't take comchecks. I went to a warehouse in Connecticut where I ended up having to bobtail to an ATM.
     
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