whats the story with volvos!?

FH Volovs got more wiring issues becouse wiring is easier to damage with cabin. Cab is over front axe mounted, more vobration and rocking but manufacter made very smooth cab suspention and FH ride is smoother VN, but cab smoothly rocks under shaking frame and that's why cab-chassis wiring brakes under cabin. It is not a problem for EU operators, where trucks run on autobahns, but on our roads Version-II wiring is a nightmare.

DAF 105, new KW and Peterbilt wiring is not so good too. Wires are thin.

It is really amazing, but Freightliner and Mercedes wiring are really good. no any issue in first 3-5 years.

 

But a Volvo with a Detroit engine is a red headed step child! Don't expect to get engine service from Volvo dealerships, and be shunned by Freightliner. If you don't have a '07 DPF engine(or newer) then you won't be doing Commiefornia after 2014.

 

BUY THE VOLVO
Pfuse is correct, there is allot of info for Volvo trucks, you just gotta know where to get it. The diagnostics is pretty easy in newer models because of the fault codes. I would buy a Volvo again but not with a Volvo engine. Parts are expensive and it seems when it came to warranty the mechanics would rush and hack stuff. Being that the engine is a Detroit I would buy that truck all day long, couple that with the 13 speed and it's that much better.

 

Just be prepared to spend about ~$10k average on repairs each year on that year of volvo.

 

Well back to the original topic of " what's the story with volvo's" ...I don't know I can't read German..........








sorry I couldn't help myself...it was Henny Youngmans fault really...just ask him

 

I would have to say Freightliner.

Look at the dealer and service network available. With freightliner you have a lot more BIG dealers with decent shops in a LOT more locations than any other OEM. In my area down here on the Gulf Coast, that is definitely the case. Back in the Kansas City area it was better than down here but you need to look at the areas you will be running in and take that into consideration. Down here there are also a lot of Detroit Power Service Centers in addition to the Truck dealers. Look at the number of Detroit Power System dealers across the country and that network itself is bigger than all of the Volvo truck dealers.

Can you run into a Volvo Power Equipment service center for an engine issue? Dont think so unless it is a Volvo Marine Dealer. Same thing goes for Paccars new MX abortion. With a Freightliner you have BOTH the Truck dealers as well as the Engine Dealers and you also have some bigger AG dealers who might be able to work on something like a MBE or DD motor since they are both used in a lot of Euro Ag equipment here in the states. If you got a CAT motor you are set in the same way because you got truck service centers and CAT Power Equipment service centers in AG and other industries.

I had a motor-home with a CAT once and one time I had an issue and pulled off the road out in western Kansas in the middle of nowhere but there was an Ag dealer right there who took care of me.

Spent the last 2 weeks at home working on my truck and I cant even imagine how much of a head ache it would have been if I had to work on a Volvo or new Paccar. The closest dealers are 100 miles away. I have a local dealer and it sure makes things easy when you do a lot of work on your own truck to have a parts department close by where you can drop in to pick up parts and look at the computer screen to make sure they order the right parts. For me at least, I would only buy a Freightliner for this reason alone. I lust after a sweet 780 for its creature comforts, but I would never buy one due to where I call home.

Trucks are trucks. You need to look at the big picture and decide what is best for you. Trust me, you WILL have service issues and you WILL need to locate parts sooner than later. Good luck with whatever you choose.

 

Go with the Volvo. Forget the naysayers. The 2000 Volvo you're looking at does not have the same amount of electronics and head aches as a newer Volvo has, or the less popular choice of a Cummins/Volvo engine. The 2nd gen Volvo's were my favorite, they offer an expansive view from sitting in the drivers seat, quiet, they ride good, the view out and around the truck is FAR SUPERIOR than the KW. The inside is bigger and more spacious. If you have a Series 60, I don't see why you would not be able to get service at a Freightliner dealer that works on Detroits. Sure, you might have an occasional electrical problem. But, my experience KW/Peterbilt(Paccar) have their own electrical problems.

You will be MUCH more pleased with the Volvo. The CAT C12 while it has some decent power, they do not get decent fuel mileage, burn oil and I've seen them come apart. Just stick with the Volvo, that is a great combo S60/13 speed too!