Starting pay

Discussion in 'Stevens' started by jdsouza, Dec 26, 2010.

  1. Corporal_Clegg

    Corporal_Clegg Road Train Member

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    you have proof he is lying? lets see it funny boy.
     
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  3. frogmeister

    frogmeister Medium Load Member

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    Who is this joker.LMAO.What a laugh this guy is.How would you know how much experience he has.We have many drivers on our fleet with 10 to 30 years of experience.We have an enormous amount of million milers.All of whom you could probably learn a thing or two from.Have you even driven for Stevens.
     
  4. Kokot

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    No. I don't have a proof sir corporal sir. But I can use my head for you know... thinking and stuff...
    Let's see. If he started to drive truck when he was 21y.o. and was driving for 38 years, he must be 59 now.
    So he was O/O most of his driving career but he decided that doing L/O with Stevens is a great idea all of the sudden close to his retirement age. If he would drive for Stevens as company driver, he'd do much better than L/O because his cpm would be such that as an L/O he wouldn't come even close to that.
    Now he works for Stevens and his truck is governed at 62. Everyone knows that Stevens will increase governed speed up to 66 after 2 years of experience.
    Henceforth, I call his experience BS.
     
  5. Kokot

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    On what fleet? Alliance? Anyone who has more than 10 years of experience and drives for Alliance doesn't use his brain.
    My trainer worked for Stevens 16 years. As a company driver. He was making .44cpm.
    Please tell me when and how can Alliance driver better that. Most can't even come close to that.
    I was making .35 on a GOOD WEEK. After all deductions of course.

    Joker? Maybe. But I'm the one who's laughing. :biggrin_2559:
     
  6. Dryver

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    So you made 35cpm on a good week. So, because you only made this amount all other drivers can't better it? How can you make such a claim? By this statement you are claiming that you are better at running a L/O operation than any other driver at Stevens, Really? I mean really?? You sir do not know the abilities of any of these drivers or their abilities to run a company. You sir are a fool for making such claims and the more you continue to do it the bigger fool you look. Put the shovel down and step away from the hole.
     
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  7. Kokot

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    It's elementary dear Watson.
    Let's say you drive 3000 miles/wk, your base pay is .86cpm and you can make consistent 7MPG.
    3000x0.86=$2580
    3000/7=428Gal x $3.912 (current national average)= $1674
    Lease+insurance+other deductions = $1000 (and I'm going easy here)
    Let's not forget DEF if you got newer truck approx $40
    So you made $2580
    Your expenses are $2714
    Fuel surcharge is around $0.60 and your loaded miles were let's say 2500 (500 miles D/H in a week is pretty realistic these days IMO)
    So your FS is $1500
    Hence 2580+1500-2714=1366
    $1366/3000=$0.45/mile
    And that's under conditions pretty close to ideal.
    But get a couple heavy loads and add some mountains into this equation and your MPG will be just around 6 while everything else remains the same.
    Then your takehome cpm will be only .36.
    Conditions are not always ideal as you all surely know.
    And nobody gets consistently 3000 miles a week or can keep consistent 7MPG.
    So it's pretty straightforward that driver with more than 10 years experience will make over .40cpm no matter what. With 38 years experience he'd have to hit the pay ceiling which is if I'm not mistaken, .48cpm.
    Why would anyone bother to drive for Alliance if he can have better and SURE money driving for company??
    As I said. Elementary. Just try to use your brain a little before you puke out something quasi-smart here.
     
  8. Corporal_Clegg

    Corporal_Clegg Road Train Member

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    Kokot, I get consistently better than 7MPG. And I run dedicated Campbells so Im almost always running heavy. Most loads Im at 78,500 to 79,500 gross. When I had my T2000 with the Cat engine my consistent avg was 6.9, but with this non DEF T660 Im running 7.2 to 7.4 depending on terrain. Im consistently netting in the 40s cpm so dont tell me it cant be done.
     
  9. frogmeister

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    Well,lets see.Maybe because you have more freedom as a contractor than you do as a company driver.You think that might be a reason.Ive done the math also,and I could make as close to what Im making on the alliance side on the company side.But I choose to remain on the dark side.Why,because I come and go as I please.Stevens doesnt tell me when and where I can take time off,or when and what load I have to take.Whether not I can take my truck home,or how many days I can take off when I do go home.Its pretty simple.
     
  10. frogmeister

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    Also,just because he has 38 years of experience doesnt mean those 38 years are with Stevens.Maybe he likes Stevens because they run freight to the area where he lives.Maybe he likes Stevens because of our well maintained trucks.Maybe he just likes the atmosphere at Stevens.Maybe he has so much experience that he could care less what you think.Maybe he prefers to be a contractor because he doesnt want the headaches of being an owner operator,and likes the fact that we have a walk away lease.I could go on and on.So if you havent personally spoken to him,I would think you have no basis to make any assumptions about this driver or any other driver at Stevens that yo havent personally spoken to.You have the right to assume anything you want,doesnt mean your assumption is correct.
     
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  11. Kokot

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    Geeze that's a lot of maybes. I've got just one. Maybe he doesn't have 38 years of experience.
    So he didn't like O/O headache so he changed it for L/O headache. Well that makes a lot of sense. Instead of paying $1000 a month he rather pay $2500. That makes him happy coz he just makes so much money that $1500 a month doesn't make any difference to him.
    Also he just loooves to flush that $2500/mnth down to toilet coz unlike many other companies, Stevens doesn't do lease purchase.
    It's like someone would decide to sell his own house and started renting thinking: "I know the rent is twice as high as my mortgage ever was. But I don't have to mowe the lawn" Yeah. Lots of sense.

    Also... drivers with that kind of experience don't have to put up with Stevens BS. I've seen it myself with my "finishing" trainer. He was telling THEM where he wants to go and when he'll take off. He never even bothered attending any classes. They just signed him off. And he was selected second or third best driver in 2008. He was company with 16 years exp. He said he would never go Alliance coz for him it just doesn't make financial (or any other) sense.
     
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