rapid air pressure loss - engine off - 07 Volvo 780

Discussion in 'Volvo Forum' started by neverhome, Oct 30, 2011.

  1. neverhome

    neverhome Bobtail Member

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    Right now, this truck is basically just sitting in my yard so I have the time to correct a couple of things if needed.

    This is what happens:

    1. Bobtail, little or no wind
    2. Build air to 130psi
    3. Turn off engine and wait 1 to 2 hrs
    4. Air pressure has dropped to approx 60psi
    5. Do not restart engine, wait as much as 24 to 48 hrs or so
    6. Air pressure does not drop much if any further, remains near or slightly below 60 psi for an extended period of time.
    Somehow, I wouldn't expect this to be normal behavior. Correct? Suggestions as to where to look?

    Thanks for any help.
     
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  3. v6killer

    v6killer Medium Load Member

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    I would start looking at the air level system on the back axel, Volvo has an up dated part for the system. four air lines down to two. After volvo replace the leveling system on my truck ( 110 .00 for the part plus labor ) 90% of my air leaks were gone.
     
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  4. neverhome

    neverhome Bobtail Member

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    Thanks for the suggestion. That sounds like it might be worth doing anyway.
     
  5. gabbys777

    gabbys777 Bobtail Member

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    I had the same problem. It turned out to be a air valve located on the frame above the batteries
     
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  6. 7060

    7060 Light Load Member

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    If your loosing that much air that quick just walk around the truck listening, the leveling valve you can push down on the arm after the bags fill to stop it from leaking in sometimes. While were talking about air leaks and I hate to hijack your thread but I have a valve leaking behind my engine oil filters on my d12, what would that be?
     
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  7. bossboy2

    bossboy2 Light Load Member

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    Mine is being fixed tomorrow. Granted it's 2005 but the company I'm leasing on with won't pass it until there are no air leaks. My leak is the air leveling valve on the front airbag, on the front drive axle...driver's side. BTW, they found it with a spray bottle and soap/water mixture...make sure the spray bottle is of the industrial type that will shoot about 5 feet or so.
     
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  8. neverhome

    neverhome Bobtail Member

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    I will look there.

    Thanks.

    Nothing that I can hear, even with the truck shut off. I agree, tho, that much air leakage should make a sound. But it doesn't seem to.

    What's really puzzling to me is that the air loss essentially stops once it gets down to approx 60psi. A valve that trips and isolates the leaky section?

    This might help finding the leak and the part to replace.

    Thanks.

    Another good suggestion about where, and how, to look for the leak. Hope there is only one air leak.

    Thanks.
     
  9. neverhome

    neverhome Bobtail Member

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    For anyone who might be interested, the air loss was reduced to approx. 1/4 of what it was by:

    =replacing two leaky fittings at the foot valve
    =replacing and sealing the threads on one leaky fitting at the air drier
    =replacing both cab air bags
    =plugging one broken air flow valve line in the driver's seat
     
  10. xiipercent

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    I'm tackling these issues today.

    what i'm curioius about is what i've heard refer to as the wet tank and dry tanks. Does that apply to the volvo780?

    what I know for sure: the front air tank(towards the steer tire) has a hairline crack. This has been the case for over a year. I've been told that it's the accumualtor tank. The two other tankshave no known leaks.

    The new problem just started this week. i'm losing all my air in about 3-5minutes.
    When the truck is running, it builds to 120-130, then all is ok(though i think the air pressure overfill release is cycling more frequently) every 90 seconds when rolling down the hiway bobtail.

    the way i'm led to believe how the system works is this- the accumulator tanks fills first, then fills the other two tanks, with no way for the two tanks to drain into the accumulator.( that's why I don't think the accumulator tank is the issue) it's a $550 tank to replace(not including labor)

    when i turn off the truck, it's the accumulator tank that's making the most noise, so it's hard to identify other leak noises.

    Any input is appreciated.
     
  11. Pablo-UA

    Pablo-UA Road Train Member

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    the last time I got the same issue it was ISX turbo actuator. It is connected to front brake tank and when engine is on it dumps air.
     
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