Newbie/Wannabe Attitudes

Good points. Thanks for the follow up.

Not to beat a dead horse, but the guy said he stopped smoking before he started school. He just didn't realize how long he would be peeing dirty...

And that's what gets me going... People jumping on a guy that is trying to do it right, (he quit smoking) but people still feel they have to dress the guy down.

 

So what he stopped just before he went to school. Why didn't he stop about 10 or 20 yrs ago? He's shown that he still wants to break the law. I bet you thought I was going to say smoke pot. Nope, the major flaw in the argument is it is illegal, period, he knew it, and still choose to. Any company that uses any degree of morals, and ethics in their thought process of hiring is not going to want someone like that.

The drug screen just told on him, much like an EOBR will tell on you for what you've done the past week or month with your driving.

I agree with Kittyfoot, if you're going to choose to do things that are illegal, or not acceptable in the trucking industry, then do not apply!! Do not be surprised when they refuse to hire you, or send you packing. They have no obligation to hire you, and it certainly is not your right to work there.

 

I think he was from Colorado. I dont know what the pot laws are there, but in my state possession is decriminalized and in my county possession and consumption is legal.

 

I have demons too. Ones that I've slain and ones I'm still dealing with. He quit before he started school. Great! How long did he quit for? For the rest of his life is the only working answer for a trucker. Not to be on a high horse but them random tests will get ya sooner or later.

 

Might I point out, Scott101, That I am reasonably sure that what ever country you are from, we are not there. And in this country, companys are not under any particular obligation to hire some one they feel can't do the job, for whatever reason.

 

In your Cali county? Sorry I don't think that supersedes the Federal laws, and that is what governs the trucking industry.

I do have a very hard stance against any of that crap. I've managed to go 52 years now and can say that I have never touched the stuff, or had the desire to. The hardest vice I've had is booze, and cigarettes, and I stopped drinking when I was 18. I was raised by parents that cared how I turned out, and made sure I understood, right from wrong.

I'm just saying that in the trucking industry, there is no margin for error. It does not exempt someone because it may be deemed legal in their state, city or county. If you want to work in this industry, and you think they should ignore or forgive those that violate their (Federal) laws and regulations, you should do some serious rethinking. Boozing it up, or getting high is not acceptable.

So with that, since it's legal in your county, are you going to risk your CDL because of it? Why not, it's legal where you live? That lame argument holds no water, period!!!

 

I agree, they can only go by the test results. I have no problem with companies that "can" people for testing dirty. But that doesn't mean the test isn't skewed. It penalizes you for something you may have done WAY before reporting to duty. It's ridiculous that a guy can drink himself into a stooper every night, but can't smoke a joint over the weekend. LoL.

But that's ok. It's the rules so either abide by it, or stop driving. I get it. That's not my problem. And it wasn't the Colorado guys issue either. HE QUIT SMOKING. He understood that was a requirement. It's not like he was asking how to continue driving, and smoking.

Why not? whether it is addictive or not is up for debate, but you don't go through detox like you do with traditionally addictive substances like cigarettes or heroin. So that is non-addictive in my book. It can be habit forming just like anything can become. But except for a few special circumstances most people shouldn't have any more problem quitting pot then quitting any other habit. Like drinking a couple of beers or having a glass of wine after work.

Surely a person isn't an alcoholic, or "addicted" to alcohol just because they consume it on a regular basis. I have the utmost confidence that anyone who puts their mind to it can change their habit to drop alcohol or marijuana. Especially when their is a monetary incentive.

 

Not long enough! LoL