Question about pricing

Discussion in 'Canadian Truckers Forum' started by Big Kev, Dec 29, 2011.

  1. mgfg

    mgfg Road Train Member

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    Snafu, as you know, you'll get the "New Canadians" from Brampton to do cartage work in the GTA for $50 an hour all day long.

    Just don't expect any professionalism, any equipment that looks like it's been washed or maintained or a driver that's qualified. That costs more.
     
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  3. snafu

    snafu Light Load Member

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    Or someone qualified to care for and handle the product safely on the trailer.

    Sad part is mgfg is that rate of $50 an hour, does not provide the money needed to operate and maintain safe road worthy equipment.

    Let alone pay for a professional driver that would perform the duties properly.
     
  4. mgfg

    mgfg Road Train Member

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    I'm with you brother!
     
  5. bonder45

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    If you drive the truck for 50 / hr how could you not keep nice equipment!?

    Even if your paying a driver 22 / hr to drive it you can still come out ahead.

    You guys, I tell yeah.
     
  6. mgfg

    mgfg Road Train Member

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    You're being facetious on all accounts right....
     
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    snafu Light Load Member

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    Really?

    Do tell please... I'd love to hear how you do the impossible.

    Because I'm hoping mgfg was correct in that you are being facetious...
     
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  8. bonder45

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    Lets break it down

    50 / hour ( with FS added into that number ) x 10 hour days = 700 per day

    Paying a driver at 22 / hour x 10 hour day = 242

    Based on MY city insurance rates I pay right now it comes out to 1800 / year
    1800 / 52 working weeks / 5 working days = 7 per day to insure
    The truck ruffly eats 250L / week so about 50L per day @ 1.05 per L = 52.5 for fuel

    So far we have 301.50 per day for the truck to run

    Now we have to add in maintaince per month which I usually do about 10% soooooo 70

    So to run my truck I pay out 371.50 per day with a profit of 700 leaves me about 328.50
    ( yes I forgot CPP and EI but lets just take off an over inflated 150 for that )
    178.50 at the low end of the scale for pure profit.

    Not to bad for doing nothing?

    ...... I'm lost how you can't make money with a truck making $50 / hour
     
  9. snafu

    snafu Light Load Member

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    Add in plates, WCB, health benefits for employees, office/whse costs, how about taxes, bookkeeping/accountants, your salary, trailer payment/maintenance, incidentals, money set aside for deductibles and major repairs

    You seem to have forgotten a few items...
     
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  10. mgfg

    mgfg Road Train Member

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    I don't know what you're insuring for $1,800 a year but that won't insure much in my part of the world even doing city cartage work. Is there a non-owned trailer policy also? If so, for what amount?
     
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    I don't recall all his details (we've had this discussion before), but IIRC it is a single axle, GVW ~30,000 lbs, so a BIG difference from OTR with GVW at 39,500-63,500 kg.

    I wouldn't even start the truck until the discussion is north of $125/hr. Most work I am doing now is around $165-185/hr.
     
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