pulling a known overweight trailer

ok i have had the same problem. we axle out and adjust where we can to get legal. do not fill up with fuel!try to be at your lowest point when crossing a scale. friend missed a scale in nv. cost 610.00 bucks. most states will give you some overage on an axle if you are not overgross. missori will give you a 1,000 lbs. if you are under gross by a 1,000lkbs. however if you are over on your steers your tires would have toi be rated for the increase in weight, if not its a ticket. 12,000 lb rating does not mean 12,500. if all this fails,have your weight on the axles ready, and speak up you will not haul it. if you have a wreck knowingly orver you could be charged with murder,and thats the truth if someone dies. these companies stand to lose millions in such a case. suggest using a day cab. if they screw you up whose going to take care of your family? it wont be them! dont let them bluff you.

 

112 racing is right, though PA does have a couple of scale houses most of their scales are portable and they do give an allowance.

 

First this thread is so old, the newbie ain't new anymore.

But Wargames is correct. I been all over CSA2010 points list and can't find any points for an overweight load.

That and the fine is made out to the company. So no points go on your MVR.

I wouldn't even pursue a job like that, but just sayin'. If you had an agreement with the boss he pays the tickets, one could get away without hurting their record or wallet.

Here's a list of all the CSA2010 points. All 61 pages of them if you want to look. They start at page 36.

http://www.landlinemag.com/todays_news/Daily/2009/Dec09/121409/SMSMethodology.pdf

 

I'm not sure how common it is, but DOT here in VT has a % allowance for being over as well. I know this from asking to be weighed with my normal loads. He came to the farm, and we discussed weight and other compliance issues. He volunteered the part about allowing 5% over. I'm pretty sure that's a courtesy, not a rule or law, but it's nice to know. I treat it as an emergency reserve, just in case thing.

Thank you CC for clarifying CSA points.

 

my brother , just before Christmas, got a big overweight ticket at the Iowa scales, that load netted the scale house $1890.98, for a load of seed corn in sacks, in a 53 foot trl, he said he never scaled , becuse he was coming from mo, i told him , you scale all loads , no matter how light or heavy, for a piece of mind, anyway he didnt listen, so this what the scale house told him, i find it hard too belive myself, but they told him he was fine, if running on the secondry roads, but you cannot go on the interstate system, i never heard of that , and i told him hes full of it or there are,anyway be a few months till he gets that paid off, and the reason, he thought he was okay , becuse he was in a day cab, guess not ,

 

i have a quistion then, let say for example, this load, this truck, this driver, is not a comercial type, but let say a private carrier , would he still have too stop then, such as for example a amusment park ride, thats on a flatbed wieghing way over gross

 

State laws may have higher road limits than the federal interstate system.

Ignorance of the law is no excuse and cuts no ice with local cops or courts.

 

I see this is a somewhat old post, but I would be interested in seeing chapter and verse of the law mandating this 3%. I once asked a Weigh master in a Tennessee scale how much over they allowed, the officer said 1000 pounds. I then asked said officer where this was stated in Tennessee law. In reply I was told it was up to officer discretion. I think this is a subject that will always be debated, but as for me, if it is not fully legal I won't pull it. I have and will return a load to a shipper to be adjusted if I can't get it legal at the cat scale. I got into it with security at a shipper in Texas because they said the company don't adjust loads once you leave the property. In this case the load was a drop and hook and I asked security where did they want me to drop load. I left the bills with security and headed to drop yard, security chased me and told me what door to back into. Yes I got almost 3000 pounds took off that load. I don't know about the CSA part, but I refuse to pull overweight loads, period!

 

Yes, He still has to stop at scale houses to be weighed regardless of whether his a private carrier or not. He is still driving a "CMV" and will be subject to bridge laws and weight restrictions.

Pulling overweight happens all the time. Just be sure you have purchased the appropriate permits BEFORE entering a state and have your route mapped out and approved.

 

Iowa not the only state like this Ne allows 92 on secondary roads. KS, CO, ND, there are more but this is all I can remember. States like Wyo were grandfathered in and they allow higher weights on all roads as long as your licensed for it on a 5 axle unit they will allow 92 if you can get 20 on your steer. If you have a 5 axle with a spread you gan get up to 96 and you can get 98 with a triple.