Cabovers

The best scene of dakar for me is this one. With a speed of almost 150 m/h or 220 km/h.
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2Xar-CD6MM[/ame]

 

Can't comment on the 2 axle because I have actually not driven one more than a couple of meters. Driven pusher many times but they say that's not the same.


Those Ginafs looks to be some pretty serious stuff. Would be nice to try some day.

 

well they bankrupt and chinese company bought them so it is still not known are they going to build them

also i heard that terberg is in problems too

anyway those trucks like terberg and ginaf are too expensive

and all manufacturers except renault and daf have wide spread tandem axles

and hydraulic suspension

so they are cheaper and in this hard times more cost-effective

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pO5YEe2GNgA[/ame]

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GT4CKnmIvdQ[/ame]



[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1leT-k6stY[/ame]

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aobmpP4CZc[/ame]

 

When we are on this "of road" trucks. How does this work in real world?
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRAqzv-bHS0[/ame]

The design looks absolutely brilliant but does it work

 

WST

 

98989

Found something that you guys maybe could use when it's slippery


"Neste Moottori (liquid motor in English) was invented by designer Ilmo Louhio in the late 50's. When he introduced this new hydraulic motor to the executives they said that if it works it should have been invented many moons ago.

The system was patented in 1961 after extensive tests and studies.

Operation principle:
The system has five hydraulic cylinders around the center of the system. Pistons push towards the perimeter of the motor that has a wavelike slanted shape. This piston movement towards the slanted surface makes the engine spin.
A controlling valve was mounted in the middle to supply oil in and out of the cylinders. The motor had a drum brake fitted and it could be mounted inside a 20" rim.
Despite the small size the motor could produce 1000kpm (9800Nm or 7200lb ft) of steady torque. The motor had a ratio of 8 so additional planetary gears weren't necessary and it could have been switched off when not needed.

Finnish defence forces used it in some military SISU Proto versions and it was discovered that suprisingly light tractors could pull heavy cannons in difficult terrain when the additional hydraulic motor was switched on. The system can be built into trucks and trailers."

 

thanks i know for this

so most amazing part related to this is when man first time put their hydrodrive on market in 2004-5-6? i dont remember good it was so much talks between people how revolutionary it is

and if we look graders have this for last 30-40years maybe even more


sisu have some very interesting solution but most of them did not get to large scale market

 

I'm on a holiday in Asia and I've seen a few interesting cabovers , firstly in Vietnam and again in the Philippines I've seen what looked like brand new cabovers international tractor units, I thought they didn't make internationals anymore! Also ive seen in Malaysia , china and the Philippines a JAC truck that's almost a clone of a scania r or p series, HINO and isusu are big in these countries as well as some nissans which I've never seen before, even saw a HINO fitted with very large 4 point cab suspension made from a car suspension (full length of a coil spring, steering column must have serious telescopic modifications and seasick pills as standard ), must be for the unpaved roads , alot of old peterbilts, freightliners and kenworths here too, mainly straight trucks like cement mixers and tippers, the difference between these and euro trucks is obvious , small bodies and carrying capacity and a large hood and poor manouverabilty while HINO or isusu have much bigger bodies

 

Yes Sisu did have some very good stuff going on. Sadly mounted together with some other bad stuff. If I do remember right Sisu was the one the invented the tag lift and the first to put tag lift on the tandem drive. Made the logger unstoppable in the woods. They do make some good axles still.
Never had a chance to test anything never than the SK and that was in the army. Remember when I was one time at a camp and one asked if I was able to make it to the unloading place. My answer was "Kyllä pääääsee" Just fine sand but that thing kept on going even though it was just a road truck. Nice to see the eyes on the army boys.
Other great story is with the Sisu SA-150 in the winter. I was last in the line of some guys going to fill up. Met a tanker on the small winter road and had to go to near the ditch. Couldn't get the truck back up so i just turned down switched 4wd on and kept on going at the same speed as the guys in front of me until I was able to get so much swing from side to side that I could get back on the road. The guys in front of me just asked what the #### I was doing when we made it to the fill up


Edit: Came to think of, wonder if that SK was equipped with that Neste drive. It had some 4wd buttons and looked quite funny under the front axle, but never came to think about it then. Have to look it up.

 

i heard that this would be 50k € of todays money