Bad paying freight

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by peteybob1, Jan 16, 2012.

  1. cpape

    cpape Desk Jockey

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    SpankingGT--how far West are you hauling your loads? Are you hauling from the East Coast to the Western States for a low rate? This does not seem like a good idea. You would probably be better off to bounce to OH and get a reasonable rate, than to haul 2000 mile loads at a low rate.
     
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  3. zbest1966

    zbest1966 Bobtail Member

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    Is this still bad frieght if paying 95 cpm including FSC. Whats good rate including FSC. What a general rule of thumb.
     
  4. G/MAN

    G/MAN Road Train Member

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    A good rate is one where you can cover all of your costs, including driver pay, and still show a profit. Everyone has a different break even point. The first thing you need to do is find your break even point. And there isn't a general rule of thumb. It is different for everyone. It depends on the type of freight you haul, where you are running and availability of freight on the other end. Vans are different than flats. Flats are different than step decks or other specialized equipment. If I pulled a van and was leased to a carrier I would not want to haul anything less than $1.70/mile. I am not sure you can consistently do that this time of year with a van. You probably could running your own authority. I really would not want to haul anything less than $2/mile, but I am not sure that is realistic with a van and leasing to a carrier.
     
  5. Cowpie1

    Cowpie1 Road Train Member

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    And don't forget to add in what the carrier might be covering, cost wise, that you would have to pay out yourself when you figure what rate is good. When you factor in substantial discounts for fuel, cost reimbursements, and other little goodies, that .95 or more a mile and FSC may be pretty good. We would all like to get $3 a mile pulling someone else trailer and such, but that is not going to happen anytime soon. But things like .40+ off the cash pump price for fuel while also still getting a good fuel surcharge is one of the things that can add up pretty quickly and more than compensate for that .95 a mile base rate plus FSC. It has to be a package deal.
     
  6. chalupa

    chalupa Road Train Member

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  7. revelation1911

    revelation1911 Heavy Load Member

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    Please explain this statement you made on 9/9/2010 ?
    SpankingGT said and I quote:
    " My biggest concern is C-15 motor. For past 4 yrs I was a company driver and never had to worry about the MPG, but as I have learned MPG is, if not the top priority when it comes to buying a truck."
    http://www.thetruckersreport.com/tr...heelers/120904-picking-up-a-freightliner.html

    Now if you were a company driver before 9/9/2010 how could you have been a authority toting carrier for six years? Being a company driver don't count as you are operating on someone else's money. So lets see over year barely??
    Like I said you will learn or go broke.
    Not to say your lieing or anything just clarify this for me as I am wondering are you confused?
     
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  8. revelation1911

    revelation1911 Heavy Load Member

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    Just did quaterly return, I averaged 1.56 @ mile for every mile reported
    Up a dime from last year. I remember my first year I made like 0.85 for alll miles. Iworked all the time and had no money. Thats what the 1.10 stuff will get you. Lots of these carriers aren't counting empty miles that what gets you.Lies are one thing in large supply now.
     
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  9. losttrucker

    losttrucker Road Train Member

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    This may explain it somewhat
    http://www.thetruckersreport.com/tr...-own-authority-vs-lease-4.html#post2087324Own Authority VS lease
     
  10. BigBadBill

    BigBadBill Bullishly Optimistic

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    In that same post he also says that he will be running 17,000 miles/month. First, with those miles that is what you find.
    Second, with those rates you have to run those miles.

    I can run a truck 10K miles per month all year long and make that O/O more money that he will ever think possible, truck will last years longer and can have an actual life.
     
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  11. 07-379Pete

    07-379Pete Crusty Commando-Pete

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    What do you mean "reported".
    In 2011 I made not averaged $1.69 for every single mile I put on the truck, and that means from the time I backed out of the driveway at home til I pulled back in.
     
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