I sent the Illinois SOS a question about this, but who knows how long that will take to get a response to?
I'm trying to file for an IRP apportioned plate in Illinois, where I "live" and one of the required documents for proof of an established place of business is a phone bill.
This is my issue; I only have a wireless line (never had a land line in my life), and I share an account with my brother, and have since I was still in high school. The issue is that the account is under his address, and not the address of my place of business.
Has anyone gotten around this? Are there states that don't require the phone bill as proof, but allow tractors titled outside of that state to file for an IRP apportioned plate?
Illinois IRP: no phone bill
Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by barroll, Jan 24, 2012.
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they dont do that here in ga .hope you get it soon .i just went to dmv and got my irp.
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Do you happen to know if they will allow a truck registered out of state file for an IRP? The truck I'm planning on buying is in Florida, so GA isn't too long of a bus ride.
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Ain't ya got an electric, gas, or water bill at that address?
I could be wrong, but I think they passed a law a couple years ago that made it #### near impossible to tag a truck outta state.
Back in my day a lotta folks used to register their trucks in Oklahoma because it was a lot cheaper. Big guys can get away with that still if they have a terminal there.barroll and CondoCruiser Thank this. -
Some states have a tax-exempt provision for sales tax on equipment used in interstate commerce. Florida, Tennessee and others. Kentucky, for example, does not have a tax exemption for such and they collect 6% sales tax on the equipment which can be a considerable sum. (This is state sales tax...nothing to do with federal excise taxes, highway usage taxes, etc...). The states with exemption tend to watch out for those trying to license from border states or maybe even farther away, in an effort to avoid the sales tax.
Not sure about Illinois but if I were a betting man and they are questioning your business address, I would be willing to place wager that they are a sales tax exempting state also. But you do bring up a good point about business address. It has been a standard for a land line to be used as a reference or verification point. Tennessee wants a couple forms of proof and soon they will have to admit the trend of doing away with land lines is going to change the requirements for proof.barroll Thanks this. -
@CaptPeabody
I do have a gas and electric bill, but one of their requirements is that one of the three forms of address verification MUST be a phone bill.
Also, illinois will tag trucks registered out of state, but that may be an artifact of bygone legislation.
If I can get around paying for a phone that I won't ever use, I will, but otherwise, I guess I'm stuck.
@The Truckist
I'm hoping that they'll accept the phone bill at a different address. Its still in the same state, but 3 hours away. It doesn't match any of my documentation other than my registered mailing address, because I had a lot of trouble with my mail and mailbox being destroyed or stolen, since I live alone and can be out 6-10 weeks at a time in the winter. -
http://www.irponline.org/ You can contact these people but they couldn't help me back in 2003 when Oklahoma was doing the exact same thing to me. I did end up getting a land line that I never used. Oklahoma has since change their requirements. IRP sets very broad rules and the states have to work within those rules. They can set their rules tighter. IRP was setup so that you register a cmv in any state and the cost was supposed to be the same no matter where it was done. But we all know it doesn't work that way. You either have to rigister in your home state or if you are leased, you can register in that state. Good Luck.
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Yep, a basic local only landline is about $30. Get it and disconnect it a couple months later if that's what you must have. It'll take time to get your first bill. Printing one offline is acceptable.
Maybe they are more critical with what you are doing, but when I moved up there, there was list of acceptable documents and utilities when I changed my CDL and car tags. That sounds crazy you must have a phone. They must be getting kickbacks from ATT.
Any of the others should be acceptable in the days of a cellphone. But that's IL.
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Still do too, all my trailers are Maine and the tractors are Illinois. I'm in Texas..... only been to Chicago once and on a plane. Go figure.
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IL is a PITA with IRP. Weekend after next the IRP people will have a booth at the Mid West Truck Show in Peoria. Take what you have to the show and sit down with them and see what you can do.
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