Our safety department sent a message saying we must turn in a DVIR every day or we will be suspended and removed from dispatch .
I said the DVIR cannot be turned in daily if defects were noted and not yet repaired because regulations state the original copy must be signed off when repaired and the driver must sign accepting it .
I got a message from the regional safety director requesting I call her because she was 100% sure I was misinformed .
I told her I had better sources to get information from .
Question about DVIR's
Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by RickG, Feb 1, 2012.
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I believe you are correct. But if the book has carbon copies in it you can turn those in.
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You're going to hear something like, by every day we mean every day you drive the truck. If the DVIR isn't signed that any defects listed have been corrected, you shouldn't be driving.RickG Thanks this.
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Thanks , my issue is we do a lot of drop and hooks or drop trailers on lots at other terminals . If we note a defect on a trailer and write it up it may be a couple of days before the repair is made .
I say the original must be left with the trailer because 396.11 says the carrier or agent must sign the original to certify repairs have been made and the next driver must sign the original accepting the vehicle .
Safety says the DVIR must be turned in daily . To me that makes no sense and makes it impossible to comply with regulations . -
Rick you have a good point there. If you note a defect on a trailer then i would say the DVIR should stay with that trailer unless you grab a second DVIR book and do it that way...I see how doing alot of drop and hook can cause a problem in the long run... Let us know what happens
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The point is this carrier treats drivers like children . They want the DVIR's turned in so they know we do them . Last year they insisted we use the inspection forms attached to the logs and turn them in with the logs .
They had an audit in March and the inspector wrote them up for improper record keeping . Evidently they haven't learned anything .
I guess I could leave an original on the trailer and make another DVIR and turn it in to make them happy but that's not the way I do things . -
Sounds like they are running scared. The safety man shouldn't worry about the shop foremans job. The DVIR should go to the shop and then when they are done they could direct it to the safety guy for review and file.
Some don't realize how one little strange request can be a big hassle. If you are OTR, something like that would be almost impossible.
What is it, regulations give you 15 days to turn it in with no defects? Something like that.
You can fill out two sheets also. One you, one shop, on safety. There's no rules against that. -
That's another thing . They want the DVIR's turned in with bills to the office , then the office brings them to the shop after they have noted the driver turned them in . I think each terminal has to scan copies from each driver to corporate daily .
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The carrier needs to keep the DVIR's for 90 days. My guess is after the audit, they have someone telling them they need to do this. Did they get a fine because of it?
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Yup , they got fined for that and nailed for logs that looked great until the inspector asked for GPS logs for Blackberrys .
They had been using computerized log auditing daily .
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