shifter, seems like that would be a good investment, but then might be a bullet in the foot.
and i guess the only one eco-head considers professional are the ones who agree his product works.
this stuff has been around forever, i been driving 32 years and they are always there. a tube of this nature has been around forever in some form or fashion.
hopefully someone will cut one of these in half like a guy did with the 3000 on another forum and posted pics, just 2 pieces of metal in a tube.
my lingering question is with where the device is installed, the fuel runs thru piping and pumps etc etc before being sprayed out the injectors. i guess that means that instead of changing the flow , etc etc. it must somehow inherently actually change the molecullar structure of the fuel to have an effect, so the mere passing of fuel thru a tube can change the molecular strcture of a fuel.
and the dyno test you guys refer to did not list any of the parameters of the test, just says it was dynoed and it went up this much.
to say many of us are skeptical is true, which most people are when it comes to parting with money. but when it comes to whether you agree or disagree with eco-taz being the determining factor if one is professional or not , is ludicrous and childish.
in fact it speaks much about him.
ECOTAZ ECO Fuelsystems Fuel Enhancers - Does it work?
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Dice you are even getting comical now, Talk about the Pot calling the Kettle black, Your using your nay sayer freinds to do REVERSE Psycology here by just talking with no proof of your own if it works or not. I believe what i am doing is called Marketing, which I have never ever denied being a salesman. You on the other hand use the forums to promote yourself, your products you test, and hide behind calling yourself a trucker.
The Toyota Forum members came to me to see If I would let one of their members test the product. The chemical engineer you mention, argued his science but he never did prove, that the ECO does not work. Most chemical engineers that discredit our product have a monetary reason. They work for the additive companies. We now have companies that found out that the USE of the ECO-System on vehicles improves the performance of their fuel additives.
We are still helping members of that forum with saving fuel costs for the Tundras and Tacomas.
Thanks to the administration for allowing Free Speech here and allowing the Proffesional drivers to test products and post their opinions and findings. If the posts would have been negative, you and your Nay Sayers would have never bothered posting here. Due to the fact that all have been positive and they are happy with it, You are now on a mission. If I were paying for advertising here, the NaySayers would make the comment that "The administrators only allow us because they are profiting from it. When you have to pay for what you say that is no longer Freedom of Speech. I again Thank the Administrators for allowing their members Freedom of Speech.
I have no problems with Dynos, but as soon as I PAY for the Dyno, the Nay-Sayer comments are that we paid for the test so the Dyno was run to our benefit. That we have a conflict.
Like I said before, if the product works it will sell itself. So far the majority of the Proffesionals using it are happy.
Who am I to tell them they should not believe what they see, what they feel with their truck, and the money left in their pockets from fuel savings is not real!
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Where did I say anyone not using ECO's is Not a Professional?
Is it not Childish and Ludicrous to continue bashing a product and the Owner/Operators that are testing and posting positive results just because you do not see negative results? You have nothing to loose, if you are dissatisfied you return for a FULL refund! If it works for you you got what you wanted! Is that not how business works? If you hate salespeople, well you have a problem because most of the loads your hauling was sold by a professional salesman!
The constant bashing speaks much about some Professionals.BigBadBill and rollin coal Thank this. -
Wow! Impressive! Not only does it somehow mysteriously crack the molecules in fuel it also does it in additives.

Maybe I should buy two, one for my fuel system and all the additives that I am going to have to buy, and the other for my oil cause the next thing he will try pushing is that it makes the oil have better viscosity.
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Come on Bill, I thought you had a little more class than that. Apparently you can't handle a little criticism on a product that you obviously have little faith in. Dice, myself and others are not beating around the bush with the fact that we have no belief in this product. Apparently you, Ben or any of the others cannot prove that this product does what the few of you say it does with anything that makes any sense. You can always tell when you back someone into a corner, they start throwing a fit and making comments that are completely un-called for. Real distastefull and definately not very professional.
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Basically you have been calling me and all the others than have been testing this device idiots over and over again. Sorry, been a little worked up today and stepped over the line. Plus should never have lumped you with some others that have no integrity.
The only person here that needs faith is you. Because all you have is belief. I have the results from using it.
Here is what I don't get about you and this mission you are on. And I am being serious about this.
Regardless of if you believe that this does what many here have said it does, Ben has proven to be a man of his word and has integrity. If the product does not work a person will get there money back. If it does, then they are further ahead. This mission from God coming from you makes no sense.
And you have chosen to align with others that will lie and manipulate to inflate their own ego. This association just seems to be beneath you. Much like my comment and I am sorry.bullhaulerswife, Oscar the KW, rollin coal and 1 other person Thank this. -
It has not been my intentions to make anyone feel like I am calling them an idiot, because I have not.
I have not aligned myself with anyone else on this or anything else, I like to think for myself. I am just a very skeptical person when it comes to the different gadgets and additives that some push and others believe in. By nature I am very argumentative when something doesn't make sense to me.
I guess you and I will have to agree to disagree on this particular subject until one or the other of us see's the light.BigBadBill Thanks this. -
We can help you! The Professionals here on this Forum have proved it.
thats what i refer to ben, its an old rule of politics. be careful of your phrasing, example when you say you will bring honesty to government that implies the current government is dishonest.
and so on and so forth.
many of us are in fact skeptical, we have over the course of 30 years seen countless items of this nature preporting to save fuel and money etc etc., they have fallen by the wayside thru the years.
the latest and greatest before yours was the 3000d which has turned out to be a bust .
i fully understand you are doing your best to market your product but as you state yourself this is an open forum and while you say your products works, the ones of us that dont are free to say it doesnt.
if that is termed bashing , it is not correct.
the placebo effect that i stated is a scientific fact and isnt necessarily a bad thing, some folks given nothing but sugar pills have shown improvement, they truly feel better.
so some may in fact be convinced of that, and they have inadvertently changed their driving habits.
i have just found over 32 years the absolute best fuel saver that doesnt cost a cent is lifting the right foot and slowing down.Dice1 Thanks this. -
i too have not aligned with anyone, i have stated my opinion and mine alone.
think about it, if we who dont think it works are aligned, so are the ones who say it works> whats the difference?Dice1 Thanks this.
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