Fuel prices and idling.

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by joseph1135, Mar 15, 2012.

  1. Roadmedic

    Roadmedic Road Train Member

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    10,000 reasons.

    Sometimes it just happens to be out of reach in tight markets.
     
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  3. joseph1135

    joseph1135 Papa Murphy

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    Not cost effective? Not only does an APU keep you cool in the summer and warm in the winter, it helps warm the engine during the winter months. It also cuts back on wear and tear from idling an engine, powers your electronics, you won't get idling tickets, go longer between oil changes, etc with diesel at $4 a gallon, you save $16000 a year. That APU pays for itself in less than a year. Not cost effective? That's the craziest thing I've ever heard.
     
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  4. Roadmedic

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    Not cost effective for me. I rarely idle. Maybe 20 hours in the entire year of 2011.
     
  5. joseph1135

    joseph1135 Papa Murphy

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    That's different. I'm talking about the guys that do idle. They whine about the cost but let that money go out the stacks.
     
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    Their choice and many do not have any other option due to the economy and tight dollars.

    Guess you should make them loans.
     
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  7. blue8210

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    In my opinion, apu and idling in the winter is unnecessary when one can always bundle up to keep warm. However, it is a necessity in the summer 90+ when you can't take off more than your cloths to cool down and get a good nite sleep. Which should be a safety issue, with State laws, concerning the cause of driver fatigue.
     
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  8. DrtyDiesel

    DrtyDiesel Road Train Member

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    Not in all cases. You spend the night with your truck shutoff in 10* weather or less and your just asking for engine damage when you crank that thing up.

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  9. xiipercent

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    My cold weather solution is a REI Down sleeping bag rated to 25 degrees.($300)
    It even kept me warm Feb'11 when western Nebreska went to 15 below and my fuel filters froze 3 times. Could'nt run the truck. Safe and sound in my bag, warm!

    I think the apu is incredibly expensive. In the summer, the truck at idle has a hard enough time getting the cab to a comfortable 65-68 degrees midday. On those days where it's unbearable or humid, I either find a hotel, or idle air.

    Those figures that the op was quoting about how much a apu saves are calc'd using extreme idling conditions( like 8 hours a day all year long)

    Not exactly real world.
     
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  10. joseph1135

    joseph1135 Papa Murphy

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    It's not my job to give them loans. I will say this. There's a difference from hanging on the edge and being a good business person. There are drivers who feel its their right to do as they please, which includes idling. You want to watch your profits literally go up in smoke that is your deal. But so many states including my own have laws against it and it's only a matter of time before every state against idling. A good businessman or woman sees The need for different tools and uses them to be more profitable and cut down on expenses. The tale of "it costs too much" for anything that would make a good business decision is getting old. If you're constantly on the edge of losing your truck then you're not good at this.
     
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  11. joseph1135

    joseph1135 Papa Murphy

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    To dirty diesel, I've driven a Peterbilt. Wasn't impressed. Lol.
     
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