log book citation/warning

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by S M D, Apr 12, 2012.

  1. S M D

    S M D Road Train Member

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    I was talking to a friend last night, he gets a red light and they pull him in for a full inspection, now we were trying to figure this out because i don't know the answer to it.
    he was doing a local delivery, but he didn't put that he was off duty the last 7 days, and he didn't log it because he was only going like 70 miles. So here is the deal. He got put out of service for 10 hours but since he had one log book violation, the officer said he was being corporative, so the officer didn't give him a ticket, but in the print out it says what he was in violation of. So does that go on his dmv or dot record or the companys ? Or?
     
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  3. revelation1911

    revelation1911 Heavy Load Member

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    If you are within 150 air miles of your base you don't have to have a logbook with you. They call it RODs or something you can look it up online at the ray lahood site. It still counts points on the worthless csa 2010.
    They didn't do your friend no favor by not giving him a ticket! they just made it near impossible to get it removed. Lazy worthless police use that trick to keep you from exercising your rights. All they want is to apppear to be doing something useful.

     
  4. S M D

    S M D Road Train Member

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    I see, ill have to talk to my friend about that, he mentiontioned something about a time card if youre delivering locally your company needs to keep a time card. Is this something he can go to court and clear up?
     
  5. Onetruckpony

    Onetruckpony Medium Load Member

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    I think you will find it is one or the other.
    You can't run a log on some days but not others.
    If he was off duty for 7 days one page, one line would have covered him. Shame to suffer this for a 5 minute thing.
    Not 100% sure on this, I'm sure someone here is and will respond with the proper regs to back it up.
     
  6. Onetruckpony

    Onetruckpony Medium Load Member

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    He may also see a ticket in the mail soon.
     
  7. aiwiron

    aiwiron Road Train Member

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    I drove local for a few years and the company had a fed inspection, inspector told us it is either time card or log book. Your buddy would have been better off telling them he had no log book and ran local only, they would never check on it and if he is in air miles for the legal exemption no one would have cared. As long as he had a pretrip inspection book and completed such, they could have wrote him up for no pretrip if he did not have it logged.

    No exceptions
     
  8. dibstr

    dibstr Road Train Member

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    Generally that is true, but for instance when a local (100amr) driver has to go outside of the radius he would then have to log. He could go back to being a local (100amr) driver the next day.

    Would you gve a reg cite for that?

    Best regards
     
  9. aiwiron

    aiwiron Road Train Member

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    Sure can

    § 396.11
    Driver vehicle inspection report(s).
    (a) Report required— (1) Motor Carriers. Every motor carrier shall require its drivers to report, and every driver shall prepare a report in writing at the completion of each day's work on each vehicle operated, except for intermodal equipment tendered by an intermodal equipment provider. The report shall cover at least the following parts and accessories:
    —Service brakes including trailer brake connections
    —Parking brake
    —Steering mechanism
    —Lighting devices and reflectors
    —Tires
    —Horn
    —Windshield wipers
    —Rear vision mirrors
    —Coupling devices
    —Wheels and rims
    —Emergency equipment


    Not a legal expert but just what was told.
     
  10. Kansas

    Kansas Road Train Member

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    YES Of course it goes on your safety rating, but here is the little trick the DOT cops are pulling these days.

    They call it a warning. And you can NOT fight it in court.

    See how they do that? All nice and tidy. It counts just the same on your safety report, but they dont have the hassle of showing up for court.
     
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  11. dibstr

    dibstr Road Train Member

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    Oh, I thought you were saying(As long as he had a pretrip inspection book and completed such, they could have wrote him up for no pretrip if he did not have it logged.) he had to have a pretrip inspection book and had done a pretrip rather than having in his possession the previous daily/after trip/DVIR.

    Best regards
     
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