I almost got fired for a seatbelt ticket.

Nope....

But PM sent....


And for the record, I have never had an affair on my spouse.

Dang, guess I am not qualified to run for office.

 

I've just got a lap belt on the driver's side in my pickup...ain't been hassled yet for it. I thought about doing the same in the Mack...but in a CMV I try to avoid giving any LEO a reason to stop me. In a lot of states, seat belts are primary enforcement...they CAN stop you for not wearing it....and once they've got you stopped, you never know what all else they'll "notice" to potentially write you up for. That's just a hassle I'd rather not have in a CMV.

 

You're dead more often without the seat belt than with. I personally have never seen someone dead from wearing a set belt that wouldn't have been dead if they didn't. 12 years of fire / rescue experience speaking.

This guy might not have rolled if he'd stayed in the seat to control the vehicle. And he almost got tossed halfway out the back window and pinned between the car and the ground when it finally settled.

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcVSQh5MbTo[/ame]

And this appears to be in Europe, but the concept is the same:

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlZAQrrlViA&feature=related[/ame]

If it had been at a higher speed, and the vehicle continued down the road without him, then what?

And this one from China:

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fVYc8X7I30[/ame]

 

Honestly, I don't believe his story. I did read the account, but didn't mention in my reply that it sounded similar to those who pop positive on a drug test and claim they ate brownies by accident. To me, the seat belt is a necessary part of moving the vehicle. If it's not on, I don't move it - and those who make a habit of wearing it don't 'forget' to put it back on.

 

Rev, this is an ignorant statement. I say ignorant vs. stupid because ignorance is not knowing better. With just a lap belt, you're not going to be secured in your vehicle in the event of a collision of any sort...especially not those with a high mechanism and volatility, such as a rollover or highway speed collision which is most likely what's going to happen with a truck.

If lap belts worked, then they wouldn't have created a shoulder belt. When you're in an accident and you have the shoulder harness under your arm, it's going to result in two things. First, the pre-tensioner is going to tighten down against your abdomen and lower chest vs. your shoulder and rib cage causing massive internal injuries that may otherwise have been prevented. The former is all provided that the forces of the accident don't throw you up and out of your seatbelt all together. The lap belt isn't going to hold you in, it's going to fold you in half and give you severe internal abdominal injuries. Regardless of how strong you think you are, you'll never "stand your ground" and hold yourself in a vehicle. The G-Forces are simply stronger than anything your body can fight against.

For your own safety, the safety of all around you, and the sake of the saved heartache of your family and loved ones, buy some padding and wear your shoulder harness my friend. They have proved time and again to save more lives than they take.

To the rest of you: Regardless of what all the tough super truckers say here, you aren't going to have the reaction time to jump out of your truck and save yourself, jump in back, blah blah blah. Just wear your #### seatbelt the way it's designed to be worn, get the padding you need, and suck it up buttercup!

 

Might I humbly suggest you go reread his account. I recall something about working through gears and then being pulled over. Far more than reaching for a map wouldn't you say? By his admission vehicle in motion no seat belt on.
Pretty dang clear cut by his story once comprehension is achieved.


Meaningless jabber about diddling his habit and phone aside I'm with Windsmith about validity. It always amazes me how many blow a light right then, or a tire, jeez I always run legal but this one load was hot, I always wear my belt but my crotch rot was real bad...........

Very few just own up to the fact they habitually engage in behaviour that will garner them a ticket.

 

Yop, I sure did read about all that....

I also know that people are making a mountain out of this.

You can't tell me you have never done anything like reach into the passenger seat or some other place to get something. Even if it means popping the seat belt for 30 seconds and putting it back on.


So in the mean time, let's hang the guy and put his head on a pike.

 

On this issue, I am pure Libertarian. Disregarding whether wearing a seatbelt makes sense, whether I choose to or not is really no one's, including government's, business. If some trooper has to use a scoop shovel to put me in a body bag, tough. it's part of the job. Don't like it? Quit.

As for the government concerned about vehicle occupant safety? Pure BS. Government cares for no one but Government. It is purely a revenue enhancement scheme. If you don't wear it, you are putting their tax revenue stream in jeopardy. So they are going to put you in your place and fine you for threatening their cash cow... you. They had no problem taking me at 18 and risking blowing me up in their no count war with no true concern for my safety or the over 58,000 troops who died and the over 300,000 who were wounded in that mess. Yet they want me to believe they care for my safety. Meanwhile, God forbid that we make a motorcyclist wear a helmet, as many states do not require helmet and there is no Federal mandate to do so. What hypocrisy!

Cynical and distrusting of the powers that be? You bet!

 

My father died at age 43 when he was involved in an accident and wasn't wearing his seat belt, the steering wheel went through his heart. As a consequence, I always wear my seat belt.

 

Nope no mountain. Simple fact and logic. He broke a law and a company policy and now faces the consequences of that. Instead of manning up and accepting it he wants to blame a record of his screw up's that doesn't have a single connection other than his poor company is using but one more tactic to keep their L/O peeing down their leg.

I could see a lot of people he could get mad at.

Himself for doing it, or for being an LO so frigging job scared a ticket apparently almost caused a panic attack. His company for hiring enough crud drivers to place themselves in a position to need to fire people for stuff that won't even show up on CSA. His company and himself again for not having the knowledge to correctly name or understand how a program works.


Like I said blaming CSA for almost getting himself fired is like blaming his MVR for almost getting him fired for speeding. He broke a law and a company policy and now wants to blame a boogey men. Same as most of his ilk blame some boogey man 3000 away for their position.




Cowpie I mean this in the nicest way. I agree if you want to be shoveled I don't care eith. However I want your secured to your seat so that you have a better chance of not causing someone else to be turned into a puddle. I can not help the government makes it seem like they or others care about your safety. Frankly I figure thats on you.