Non of the safety directors or DOTs business

And I agree Rat but she's doing her job and the law is the law. It's the purest sense of the law but the law.

This is not usually enforced because driver hours are so precious and she's only screwing herself in the long run........

But here, have some fun........she wants by the book? Right down the line? Then be that, own that...... don't move the truck if it has a violation of any kind and no more 34's. Those are driver options so drop and pick up. Start your log from the house when dispatch calls . Run out of hrs 30 mns out and make 'em come get you.

Not real hard to break the dog from sucking eggs.......

 

I know you would like to think it is none of their business what you do away from the truck, and you are right, to a point.

At the point where you begin to drive a CMV you fall under regulations and limitations on driving time.

You can not work 60-70-80 hours in a week and still climb in a CMV and drive legally. Whether that work is on the farm, painting houses, or as a greeter at Walmart. Work is work.

 

i get 11 and 14 and 70 hour company violations too. even thugh the hours are EXACT what i work. but even more so should i flag a 10 DURING the day so i end up with 12.25 hours on one log or whatever the number may beeeeeeeee.

i agree with the poster thpough. law or no law. i'm OFF DUTY and what i do with my time is none of any ones business.

next you all will be telling me i need to start flagging my driving time for riding my motorcycle. on my OFF DUTY time.

 

By your reasoning, mowing the grass, doing dishes or paying bills while on home time is "on duty time"... Where do you draw the line?

 

Sad part about the industry is that most arm chair safety staff could not even be qualified to drive or even posses a CDL, they are parasites mostly that figured out a way to be someones boss.

During the course of your time working on the farm you should have logged it, that is the letter of the CFR, but in spirit of regulations she could have just let it go.

I agree with chalupa, make the book regs work for you. Log it to the letter and let anyone say to do it different ask them to put it on paper.

 

On-Duty time includes:
"Performing any other work in the capacity, employ, or service of, a motor carrier; and
"Performing any compensated work for a person who is not a motor carrier." (395.2 Definitions)

Any work where you receive compensation would be on-duty.

Honey-do work does not count. Mowing your lawn does not count.

The line is drawn at compensation. (unless it is work for your carrier)

 

Scalemaster you are a valid and reliable resource in the industry and do respect what you do, but honestly with all do respect does the letter of the law and spirit of the law make a difference anymore?

By the letter of the law you are correct in every way, but honestly to be this heavy handed with micro managing a driver not driving is a little bit overboard.

With respect

 

Who ratted you out? Does payroll for the farm work roll together with the trucking pay? Snitches get stitches.

 

Just what is the spirit of the regulation? For some reason I thought it was to give a driver the opportunity to get rest, and if he refuses to do this by working for a person other than his carrier for compensation then he trashed the spirit of the reg. Perhaps I am missing the true spirit.

Best regards

 

Besides the law, I'd say did it go on your payroll exposing a paper trail?

You have no choice but to log then.

If you got paid, a job is a job. We need to send you a 1099 if it was cash!

If it was volunteer work goofing off and sucking up, then no it's not considered employment or loggable (Is that a word?).

You know who she is now! A snake in the bush!