Non of the safety directors or DOTs business

He's just using 36 as a hypothetical situation. The simple definition of the 14 hour rule is you cannot DRIVE after being on duty 14 hours until you get a 10 hour break. Nowhere does it say you cannot work after your 14 is up.

 

I'd log it as ON DUTY, then take a 10 hour break (maybe even a 34) and have time available. It's crazy how those silly HOS work.

 

You do not need to log off driving days in your log book you keep for driving.

However, you DO need to record those hours on a time sheet.

I just went through a DOT audit, and I drive the truck only 1 day a week. ALL OTHER days MUST be recorded, if not in my log book for driving, then on a separate time sheet.

Technically, as ridiculous as it is, the safety person was right, you were in violation for not recording those hours somewhere.

 

Not legally he doesn't. Even if you are considered local (under 100 miles) He still can't be on duty in the commission of his work for more than 14 hours. Local dirt haulers have been complaining about this for years and now the oil patch guys in west Texas are up in arms over it.

 

Moral of the story.... On your off time, go fishing!

 

Log book or time sheet is irrelevant. You will have to carry both with you to prove what your sched was for 8 days inclusive of the current day.

Matters not which method you use, you have to log it somewhere and keep it with you.

 

So, What did the BOSS have to say about all this ??, after all they both work for him.

 

yeah he does, I work for US Foods, we regularly work past our 14, once we are at the terminal. NOWHERE in the HOS regulations does it limit you from WORKING. You can work the yard, or the docks all night, not in violation.

HOWEVER, before you can DRIVE a truck again, you have to have a legal break.

thats the way it works, thats what a DOT officer will tell you, and the thousands of other Safety Managers in thousands of companies.

There is a lot more to trucking than driving down the road, thats the only thing that you cant do past 14 hours. except once a week for local drivers, you can run to 16, but you have to be punched out by 16, and you cannot WORK past the 16th hour.

 

If driving work was slow why not log it ? You had nothing else to do with the 70 hours. You have to pick your battles ,this wasn't one to fight.

 

No you do not. Keeping a record of non-driving day(s) hours on file in the office is totally acceptable.