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Discussion in 'Flatbed Trucking Forum' started by knight44, May 8, 2012.

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  1. May 8, 2012 #1
    knight44

    knight44 Bobtail Member

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    I purchased a 1984 Trailmobile 48' Flatbed trailer in 2007 and never registered it. Now I have to get it registered and I have realized that I did not recieve a title but a MVR-4 form which is a duplicate title request, signed and notarized by the elderly gentleman that I purchased it from. At DMV today I was informed that not only was the trailer not titled in that man's name but it also had a lien on it. Through lots of research and sitting on hold with DMV I have come to the conclusion that I purchased the trailer from the man that was the lienholder. I still have not been able to find out who the trailer is actually titled to. And the man that I purchased it from is deceased. Also the man that owned the farm that the trailer was parked on (the man that I believe owned the trailer at the time though he did not have it registered in his name either) is also deceased. So I am trying to deal with grandchildren and estate executives that have no idea what I am talking about. How do I find out who the trailer is actually titled to? Or how can I get it registered otherwise? I am in a major bind and have to get this trailer on the road ASAP!! I live in North Carolina. Any help would be much appreciated! Thank you so much!
     
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  3. May 8, 2012 #2
    MNdriver

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    can't the DMV tell you who it's titled to?

    I would think they could.
     
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  4. May 8, 2012 #3
    Allow Me.

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    You've got a mess.....even finding the original "owner" won't do you much good, since he is probably ticked off for losing his trailer thru a lien and isn't about to hand over the papers. Just my guess. Waiting 5 years to register it wasn't too smart either. You might try to register it in another state.
     
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  5. May 8, 2012 #4
    misterG

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    Knight, I believe that your s-c-r-e-w-e-d. To put it rather bluntly.
    Can the DMV give you a screen print of the last known registration, provided you give them proof of your ownership?
    This may give clue who was the last know registrant of that trailer.
     
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  7. May 8, 2012 #5
    Autocar

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    ASAP just flew out the window. Most likely, a duplicate title will have to be produced, by the state. Then the lienholder's hier(s) will have to sign off on the lien. Then the title holder's heir(s) will have to sign off on the title. Then you will finally be ble to process it into your name.
     
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  8. May 8, 2012 #6
    windsmith

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  9. May 9, 2012 #7
    FL32514

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    I'm no lawyer, but do you have a shop, or a friend with a shop that could file a mechanics lien on it and gain posession of it that way?
     
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  10. May 9, 2012 #8
    Cranky Yankee

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    a 28 year old trailer been sitting at least 5 years will be a major bind?
    DOT cant wait to look at that thing
     
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  11. May 9, 2012 #9
    revelation1911

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    Buy a temporary tag and apply for a abandoned title or apply for a lost title.
    If the trailer has been sitting that long it may take more than it's worth to get it road worthy. sitting five years and you're going to need 8 tires to start with.
     
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    CondoCruiser Thanks this.
  12. May 9, 2012 #10
    CondoCruiser

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    The lien is going to have to be paid in order to go that route. It's kind of like buying a used cell phone or satellite TV box. All old bills have to be paid.

    Another case of don't let your guard down. Old people can screw you just like a younger person can. I had a 74 year old lady sell me land that she didn't own. Turned out there was two deeds and hers was bad. When they have nothing or died, there isn't much you can do but suck it up and move on. Luckily I only lost a deposit.

    Like revelation said, is that old trailer really worth all the trouble? It probably needs a whole bunch of repairs. Any seal or rubber is going to be dry rotted, drums rusted, etc. Then you are going to pull a non-ABS trailer behind a ABS tractor? Not a good idea in the winter.





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